engine stiffening brakets???

[fordman67]

Has anyone used the engine stiffening braket kit from model t ranch? They any good? Someday i would love an od....if they do what they advertise to di i would feel safer...i know over the years many were advertised...need first hand experience! Anyone?

[Doug Money]

Do you mean the cradle that supports the warford that hangs off the back of the trans? I heard they are necessary to help support the weight.

[fordman67]

No this is the one that is advertised in mtfca book in the back.it goes from front over side of hog head and down to side ov trans.just suppports main oil pan.it is said to help support an od as well.i know over the years there were many such products.just curious if this actually works or just waste of $...????

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Is this what you're talking about?

1909 to 1925 Model T Motors flex up and down (Heavy Warfords and other types of aux. transmissions hanging on rear of ford of the FORD transmission) causing Severe Bending STRESS on the Crankshaft: On the 1926-27 models this problem was solved. This retro fit kit will brace the oil pan engine block and bell housing; Will keep perfect alignment through the center line in all four main bearings; in the same manner as the 26-27 models. A heavy black bracket is attached on each side of engine block at center main location. A 7/16” rod is welded to the Bellhousing bracket with adjusting nuts on each side of the black bracket. The Bellhousing bracket is bolted to upper sides of bell housing. (Requires three ¼” holes to be drilled and tapped into Bellhousing on each side) using three alloy steel flat head socket screws. Locating bracket to bellhousing is made easy with a 1” strap and is welded to bracket at 90 degrees and extends to the rear pan arm. It attaches to the pan/ frame bolt bracing rear of engine as in 26-27 models. The bracket is a three point mounting on both sides of Engine.

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Nope never heard of em.

[fordman67]

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Wow Mike! Way to go there buddy! That is the one im curious about.im thinking even if i do not do an od it would be good(if it works) to prevent early bearing wear or the dreaded broken crank....????

[fordman67]

Hahahahahahaha yea NEVER!

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Originally Posted by fordman67

Wow Mike! Way to go there buddy! That is the one im curious about.im thinking even if i do not do an od it would be good(if it works) to prevent early bearing wear or the dreaded broken crank....????

I do try. I really don't see what it can hurt but can't tell you if it will help either unless your using it because you're hanging extra weight as they're describing. However another point is that Ford put something similar in the '26-'27s. Apparently they saw a need for something. And what the heck it's only $100.00 plus shipping. And you're rich so... LOL

[Doug Money]

They use them in the 26-7s due to the four dip pans not being strong enough like the three dippers. At least that is what I have heard.

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Originally Posted by Doug Money

They use them in the 26-7s due to the four dip pans not being strong enough like the three dippers. At least that is what I have heard.

Makes sense. Actually after watching farmallcub49 straighten my 3 dip pan yesterday I think they can even be affected. If the pan didn't have the removable bottom they'd probably be a lot less likely to twist.

[fordman67]

I think im gonna save my pennies and try it out.maybe their out side oiler system too.and if i win the lottery i might do the oil filter also...the prices seem pretty fair.i figured everything would be very expensive but not at all.

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They seem to be very much in tune with some innovation and I agree, realistic prices too.

[fordman67]

Yea,if it helps any at all it is worth it.these babbit jobs are too expensive anyway mjch less anymore than nessary.im gonna do it....

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Now you got me thinking. My car has been marking it's territory since I bought it. Problem is it's like a dog. Everywhere it goes it thinks it's there territory and they just keep marking it. At any rate, it might be leaving it's precious body fluids because of the pan being out of flat. And maybe one of these fixtures is a good idea for all model t's whether 4 dip or 3.

[fordman67]

The only problem is engine has to be out or body off.in your running car that might have to wait for the touring to be done...or do it on touring also...

[fordman67]

My old T speedster always marked its territory also...when it quit...it was out of oil.it was SO wore out it would spit oil out of the breather and leave oil spots on the driver..until i rerung it...after...not much better....i sure miss that ol gal though...good times...

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Originally Posted by fordman67

My old T speedster always marked its territory also...when it quit...it was out of oil.it was SO wore out it would spit oil out of the breather and leave oil spots on the driver..until i rerung it...after...not much better....i sure miss that ol gal though...good times...

That little story sure made me smile. It reminds me of a lot of the vehicles I've owned. Had a '67 impala SS. It had a hole in the piston. I had to drive it one winter night at about 20 degrees below 0 for 175 miles. It let me know when to change oil because it would develop a knock and blow the oil breather off. I could always here it hit the hood. Then I'd get out with a 2 gallon can of oil and dump it in the engine. Made it home, honed the cylinder and put in a new piston. It would have been hard to scrap a 400 hp 327 cu in engine.

[fordman67]

I still drove it...back and fourth to work even...it was probably the coolest car i ever owned...and imean it! Just love these T's...dang im gonna have to get mine going soon.this is killing me!

[fordman67]

I liked yours mike.especially the oil cap "smaking" the hood...good stuff there!