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Fibber Mcgee · 02-15-2012, 06:03 AM

How much is shared between the 40 and 41 and is there anything shared between the 41 and say the 30's?I'm mainly talking about frame and body.I know they said it was redone for 41 but the shape looks alot alike ,although wider.

Vic Piano · 02-15-2012, 07:19 AM

As far as I know, the '41 was a "one year" car in many ways. While the drive train was the same as the '40, there were a lot of differences in the body dimensions, etc. As an example, the running boards were partially covered; this was unique to the '41's.

41Fordor · 02-15-2012, 08:09 AM

Good question, I want to find a spare banjo rear for mine to rebuild. My rear bearing races are a little galled. I think 39-41 rears are the same spring mounts but hopefully someone can chime in.

PeteVS · 02-15-2012, 08:53 AM

'41 rear axle housings are also unique. Attached link is for an article that appeared in Street Rodder a couple of years ago breaking the designs down by year...

http://www.flatheadv8.org/fordrear.htm

This topic turns up quite often on FordBarn. The Street Rodder article should be in everyone's library!

Displayman · 02-15-2012, 09:38 AM

Pete,
Great link, very informative.

Bob

1931 flamingo · 02-15-2012, 10:44 AM

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PeteVS: I remember that article like it was yesterday, but notice that it's from 2003. Time flys.
Paul in CT

rotorwrench · 02-15-2012, 02:29 PM

Ford & Mercury both increase wheel base specs that year except for the commercial chassis. The commercial pickups remained 112 inches. 1941 was the last year for the crankshaft mounted fan set up. I think the body shells may have widened a bit too in 41. 41s had a partial running board protrusion since the doors had the rounded out area on the bottom that mostly covered them. In 42 they were completely covered by the doors. Transmissions and engines were pretty much the same. Those rear axles with the double barrel shackle mounts were still the same width as the earlier ones back to 35.

Ford1941 · 02-15-2012, 08:52 PM

One more thing to watch out for between 41s and 42-48s; while you can interchange the torque tube and banjo (and transmission), be aware that you cannot interchange rear axles, rear axle housings and springs. The 42-48 cars had a 1 1/2 wider wheel base, so each axle was actually 3/4s of an inch wider on the 42-48s. The only way to know for sure is to have a good parts book. The 38-46 Ford Wholesale Parts and Approved Accesories Catalog is a great source. There are multiple new and used copies available on eBay right now. The "green bible" (The 28-48 Ford Chassis parts book) is also a great source, but be aware the green bible will not always show the original part, but sometimes the approriate replacement part, so this could hurt you in concourse judging. Scott

02-15-2012, 06:03 AM	#1
Fibber Mcgee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Callahan Fla Posts: 1,149	40 vs 41 How much is shared between the 40 and 41 and is there anything shared between the 41 and say the 30's?I'm mainly talking about frame and body.I know they said it was redone for 41 but the shape looks alot alike ,although wider. __________________ Wanted, a car with a " Dynaflex Superflowing Unijet Turbovasculator which is Syncromeshed to the Multicoil Hydrotensioned Dual vacuum Dynomometer. "

02-15-2012, 07:19 AM	#2
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: 40 vs 41 As far as I know, the '41 was a "one year" car in many ways. While the drive train was the same as the '40, there were a lot of differences in the body dimensions, etc. As an example, the running boards were partially covered; this was unique to the '41's. __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

02-15-2012, 08:09 AM	#3
41Fordor Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cheyenne WY Posts: 195	Re: 40 vs 41 Good question, I want to find a spare banjo rear for mine to rebuild. My rear bearing races are a little galled. I think 39-41 rears are the same spring mounts but hopefully someone can chime in.

02-15-2012, 08:53 AM	#4
PeteVS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: FP, NJ Posts: 2,811	Re: 40 vs 41 '41 rear axle housings are also unique. Attached link is for an article that appeared in Street Rodder a couple of years ago breaking the designs down by year... http://www.flatheadv8.org/fordrear.htm This topic turns up quite often on FordBarn. The Street Rodder article should be in everyone's library! __________________ Don't never get rid of nuthin! Last edited by PeteVS; 02-15-2012 at 10:53 AM. Reason: Added comment...

02-15-2012, 09:38 AM	#5
Displayman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hampshire, Illinois Posts: 392	Re: 40 vs 41 Pete, Great link, very informative. Bob

02-15-2012, 10:44 AM	#6
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,428	Re: 40 vs 41 Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) PeteVS: I remember that article like it was yesterday, but notice that it's from 2003. Time flys. Paul in CT

02-15-2012, 02:29 PM	#7
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 17,410	Re: 40 vs 41 Ford & Mercury both increase wheel base specs that year except for the commercial chassis. The commercial pickups remained 112 inches. 1941 was the last year for the crankshaft mounted fan set up. I think the body shells may have widened a bit too in 41. 41s had a partial running board protrusion since the doors had the rounded out area on the bottom that mostly covered them. In 42 they were completely covered by the doors. Transmissions and engines were pretty much the same. Those rear axles with the double barrel shackle mounts were still the same width as the earlier ones back to 35. Last edited by rotorwrench; 02-15-2012 at 03:28 PM.

02-15-2012, 08:52 PM	#8
Ford1941 Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 53	Re: 40 vs 41 One more thing to watch out for between 41s and 42-48s; while you can interchange the torque tube and banjo (and transmission), be aware that you cannot interchange rear axles, rear axle housings and springs. The 42-48 cars had a 1 1/2 wider wheel base, so each axle was actually 3/4s of an inch wider on the 42-48s. The only way to know for sure is to have a good parts book. The 38-46 Ford Wholesale Parts and Approved Accesories Catalog is a great source. There are multiple new and used copies available on eBay right now. The "green bible" (The 28-48 Ford Chassis parts book) is also a great source, but be aware the green bible will not always show the original part, but sometimes the approriate replacement part, so this could hurt you in concourse judging. Scott