The Ford Barn

Steve Plucker · 11-12-2015, 11:00 PM

I wonder if anyone has ever restored a Standrive Model AA Ford.

These were vehicles where the frame was cut in half and lowered the mid section so the driver could "stand" while driving.

Were there Model A Standrive vehicles?

Has anyone ever seen or have one of these?

Pluck

scrapiron · 11-13-2015, 07:17 AM

Wagner's Ford Truck book has 2 pictures, p.95, chassis and milk truck.
Introduced in late '31.

2manycars · 11-13-2015, 07:40 AM

25 years ago a guy named Walt Kritemeyer had one here in CT. He moved down south at least 20 years ago, and I dont know where he now is, or if he is still alive. He also had a nice original pickup, and a tudor that he fitted with a pedal set on the right side, so he could deliver rural mail.

eagle · 11-13-2015, 09:26 AM

I had a milk delivery truck standrive, sold it in 2008 to Ray Zeigler, believe in Pennsylvania????. He was restoring it and kept me updated with pics etc but haven't heard from him in a few years. Would have loved to have kept it but knew I would never get it done so sold it to Ray for $1000. Mine was a true standrive but then had a swingaway seat, kind of like an old tractor seat that you could swing forward to sit on if you wanted to. The pedals were pushed straight down onto the floor. Could still see the ad painted on the side, phone number was Elk31 if I remember right. The wood kit around the windows etc were a work of art, curved machined pieces that were beyond my skills to reproduce, even having the patterns. The door was basically just like an old screen door with a spring holding it shut, glass instead of screen.

WTSHNN · 11-13-2015, 10:00 AM

There is one in the Elliott Museum down in Florida, I took some shots of the pedal and steering wheel setup. Don't have those pics on this computer but can find them this weekend.

I remember the throttle and spark levers were unique as was the shift lever.

-Tim

Brian T · 11-13-2015, 10:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Plucker

I wonder if anyone has ever restored a Standrive Model AA Ford.

These were vehicles where the frame was cut in half and lowered the mid section so the driver could "stand" while driving.

Were there Model A Standrive vehicles?

Has anyone ever seen or have one of these?

Pluck

Pluck, Go to the AA forums and enter "Standrive" one of the members was deep into a restoration, he as not been active for a while, maybe Neil Wilson knows more about him.
Regards Brian.

Brian T · 11-13-2015, 10:26 AM

Here is a picture of a Standrive courtesy of Neil Wilson.

2manycars · 11-13-2015, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Turley

Walt lives in NC. He sold the two stand-drives and the pickup.

Glad to hear Walt is alive. He told me he got that pickup in the 50's from a guy who said if he could get it out of the yard, he could have it.

katy · 11-13-2015, 11:35 AM

Sorta like a Divco.

jimalabam · 11-13-2015, 08:06 PM

I also was in contact with Ray Zeigler around 2008. Have pictures and will look them up and send you copies. These photos are now in a collection I have donated to my local Model A Club Library, SOOO, Pluck give me a few days and you will get the photos and info. Jim Langley...

CWilson · 11-13-2015, 08:53 PM

Bob C · 11-13-2015, 10:15 PM

I noticed in the last picture Vince posted that the chassis has a solid mount
front cross member for the engine, I though only the early long wheel base
trucks had that.

Bob

eagle · 11-13-2015, 11:06 PM

YES!!!! There it is! Amazing to see it again. I've been wondering how its coming. Wish I was closer to help on it. When its done I would love to go and look at it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by forever4

They are AA chassis, not A.
A guy locally in Southfield has two of them he is currently restoring.
Roger Kauffman also had one.

Eagle, Here is your truck:

Steve Plucker · 11-14-2015, 12:06 AM

So the question is...Just how many of these puppies were made?

In 1931, only 201 in the USA and 12 in Walkerville (Canada) for a total of 213.

1932 saw 246 worldwide.

Pluck

WTSHNN · 11-14-2015, 10:50 PM

Here are some of the Elliott Museum's Standrive...

-Tim

Neil Wilson · 11-15-2015, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forever4

I believe all 157 WB trucks used the solid front mount throughout production.

The Standrive was a special short wheel base (112?), and it apparently also used the solid mount crossmember.

Vince,
My research indicates that the parallel framed AA157 used the same front cross member as the AA131. The 1930 tapered framed AA157 used the solid front engine support.

The use of the solid front engine support for the 112" Standrive frame is new information to me.

? Have you seen my 11/10/15 email? Maybe it has gone into your trash file.

11-12-2015, 11:00 PM	#1
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	The Standrive AA Fords... I wonder if anyone has ever restored a Standrive Model AA Ford. These were vehicles where the frame was cut in half and lowered the mid section so the driver could "stand" while driving. Were there Model A Standrive vehicles? Has anyone ever seen or have one of these? Pluck

11-13-2015, 07:17 AM	#2
scrapiron Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Independence, VA Posts: 423	Re: The Standrive AA Fords... Wagner's Ford Truck book has 2 pictures, p.95, chassis and milk truck. Introduced in late '31.

11-13-2015, 07:40 AM	#3
2manycars Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern CT Posts: 2,732	Re: The Standrive AA Fords... 25 years ago a guy named Walt Kritemeyer had one here in CT. He moved down south at least 20 years ago, and I dont know where he now is, or if he is still alive. He also had a nice original pickup, and a tudor that he fitted with a pedal set on the right side, so he could deliver rural mail.

11-13-2015, 09:26 AM	#4
eagle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Eagle Bend, MN Posts: 2,081	Re: The Standrive AA Fords... I had a milk delivery truck standrive, sold it in 2008 to Ray Zeigler, believe in Pennsylvania????. He was restoring it and kept me updated with pics etc but haven't heard from him in a few years. Would have loved to have kept it but knew I would never get it done so sold it to Ray for $1000. Mine was a true standrive but then had a swingaway seat, kind of like an old tractor seat that you could swing forward to sit on if you wanted to. The pedals were pushed straight down onto the floor. Could still see the ad painted on the side, phone number was Elk31 if I remember right. The wood kit around the windows etc were a work of art, curved machined pieces that were beyond my skills to reproduce, even having the patterns. The door was basically just like an old screen door with a spring holding it shut, glass instead of screen. __________________ "There are some that can destroy an anvil with a teaspoon and shouldn't be allowed to touch anything resembling a tool." Last edited by eagle; 11-13-2015 at 09:33 AM.

11-13-2015, 10:00 AM	#5
WTSHNN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,489	Re: The Standrive AA Fords... There is one in the Elliott Museum down in Florida, I took some shots of the pedal and steering wheel setup. Don't have those pics on this computer but can find them this weekend. I remember the throttle and spark levers were unique as was the shift lever. -Tim __________________ No one wants advice - only corroboration. -John Steinbeck Last edited by WTSHNN; 11-14-2015 at 10:51 PM.

11-13-2015, 11:35 AM	#9
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,716	Re: The Standrive AA Fords... Sorta like a Divco. __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

11-13-2015, 08:06 PM	#10
jimalabam Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lee County Alabama Posts: 828	Re: The Standrive AA Fords... I also was in contact with Ray Zeigler around 2008. Have pictures and will look them up and send you copies. These photos are now in a collection I have donated to my local Model A Club Library, SOOO, Pluck give me a few days and you will get the photos and info. Jim Langley...

11-13-2015, 08:53 PM	#11
CWilson Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Sunbury, OH Posts: 295	Re: The Standrive AA Fords...

11-13-2015, 10:15 PM	#12
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 9,360	Re: The Standrive AA Fords... I noticed in the last picture Vince posted that the chassis has a solid mount front cross member for the engine, I though only the early long wheel base trucks had that. Bob

11-14-2015, 12:06 AM	#14
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: The Standrive AA Fords... So the question is...Just how many of these puppies were made? In 1931, only 201 in the USA and 12 in Walkerville (Canada) for a total of 213. 1932 saw 246 worldwide. Pluck

11-14-2015, 10:50 PM	#15
WTSHNN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,489	Re: The Standrive AA Fords... Here are some of the Elliott Museum's Standrive... -Tim __________________ No one wants advice - only corroboration. -John Steinbeck