Good Ole Ethonal In Our Classic Cars

[FL&WVMIKE]

Be Sure To Watch This And Pass It Around .....
MIKE

http://www.historicvehicle.org/Lates...ol-classic-car

[Jack '29 Sport Coupe]

Indeed, a good film, but it doesn't really address what to do about it. At the risk of sounding like a broken record----go down to Walmart and buy an eight oz. bottle of Startron in the boat supply department. One oz. per 16 gallons is all you need. It
works! Many of the members of the Orlando chapter of MAFCA swear buy it. I use it in all of my cars, Honda generator, and Honda motor scooter. 8.96 plus tax will treat 128 gallons of the crap gas. Their website has downloadable MSDS, etc.........
www.startron.com JMHO.

Jack

[Old182]

Good video, but with all due respect to Mr. Syrocki, he's assuming all the problems were caused by ethanol. Maybe, maybe not. It's well known that aromatics (toluene and xylenes) cause elastomer swelling and that fuels in systems that sit for long periods will evaporate the light ends leaving the corrosion he found on pot metal parts (the Holly 3310 on my 327 was loaded with that same corrosion long before ethanol was introduced in the northeast). It's true that ethanol and other alcohols are great solvents and will clean the crap out of your fuel system; whether that's a good or bad thing depends on how you want your fuel system to operate for the long term. And ethanol will take the coating off cork floats - GM had a problem with their fuel injectors in the early '90s with ethanol removing the insulation from the coils resulting in shorted injectors. Race teams that clean their entire fuel system on Monday mornings use methanol, not ethanol, and use really high concentrations. Brasil went to ethanol about 20 years ago and has many carburetted engines that are doing very well - after changing a lot of fuel filters and wrestling with cold start problems; but they did it and now thumb their noses at the Arabs. The EAA and Petersen have STCs for autogas in airplanes and the FAA has blessed them based on good testing and a lack of problems directly attributed to ethanol. Mr. Syrocki may be 100% right, but we shouldn't be swayed totally by anecdotal evidence when there are 250,000,000 vehicles in the U.S. most of which run on ethanol every day with no problems. FWIW, I tend to side with the mechanics who commented on the story: I personally haven't seen any problems with the 10% ethanol in NY gasolines, but then that doesn't make it a perfect fuel either. Just saying.

[Perfdavid]

Just don't use it.
This site tells you who doesn't have it
http://pure-gas.org/

[MrTube]

Originally Posted by Perfdavid

Just don't use it.
This site tells you who doesn't have it
http://pure-gas.org/

As others have said repeatedly quite a few states will not allow the sale of fuel without it.

[Perfdavid]

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Originally Posted by MrTube

As others have said repeatedly quite a few states will not allow the sale of fuel without it.

Vote them out

[MrTube]

Originally Posted by Perfdavid

Vote them out

Can't

[Perfdavid]

Originally Posted by MrTube

Can't

Yeah, not a fan of big brother neither.
I think to many decisions are made without enough facts backing these decisions or research into the consequences

[mrtexas]

"It's well known that aromatics (toluene and xylenes) cause elastomer swelling and that fuels in systems that sit for long periods will evaporate the light ends leaving the corrosion he found on pot metal parts (the Holly 3310 on my 327 was loaded with that same corrosion long before ethanol was introduced in the northeast)."

Aromatics are the prime octane booster to make super. The major process to make them is called platinum reforming and is probably 20+% of total crude capacity for the typical refinery. Our ever meddling EPA is now mandating benzene be reduce in gasoline making it increasingly difficult to make super. They never make it easier.

[ken ct]

Good vidio,most carb and FP rebuilders know all this and try to avoid using any rubber products in there rebuilding.Carb pieces are availible at a price to get away from this but FP's are more of a problem as there is a rubber diafram that has to be replaced and the valves are starting to be a big problem also. Some manufactures are using a type of valve with a rubber coated disc in them.These in my opinion are junk too. OMO.. as a rebuilder ken ct. I am really considering giving up rebuilding pumps,no good parts are presently availible.Im trying a new supplier in NY for diaf and valves. Not Mac's either heaven forbid. kens ford carbs, ken ct.

[HoarseWhisperer]

Just throwing out my experience with ethanol.

When all the alarm and scare tactics surfaced, I went out and bought a neoprene fuel gauge float, to be prepared for the disinegration of my cork float caused by evil ethanol.

That was five years and 38,000 miles ago. The Neoprene float is still in the trunk and I have never experienced any other fuel issues, including so called "vapor lock".

Mind you, I'm still "scared" enough to fill-up with pure gas with Stabil Marine, prior to Winter Storage. Water separation does scare me.

[Paul from Maine]

Originally Posted by HoarseWhisperer

Just throwing out my experience with ethanol.

When all the alarm and scare tactics surfaced, I went out and bought a neoprene fuel gauge float, to be prepared for the disinegration of my cork float caused by evil ethanol.

That was five years and 38,000 miles ago. The Neoprene float is still in the trunk and I have never experienced any other fuel issues, including so called "vapor lock".

Mind you, I'm still "scared" enough to fill-up with pure gas with Stabil Marine, prior to Winter Storage. Water separation does scare me.

My only bad experience with ethanol was during the first spring that it was available. Started up my Model T in late March. Filled tank with the new ethanol fuel (10%) and put a few miles on her. Wife left me with a one year old daughter about a week later. Unable to find time to drive Model T until July due to new additional child rearing duties. In July, I couldn't even turn on the fuel shut off due to varnish. Upon inspection, I found the carb bowl was coated with lots of varnish and gum. Cleaned everything up and car ran fine. I think the ethanol dissolved some or all of gum and varnish in fuel system. Then I didn't run enough fuel through the carb and fuel lines to get all the fuel contaminated by the dissolved gum and varnish out of the system. Over the three months of idleness, I suppose the dissolved gum and varnish precipitated out of solution and gummed up my fuel shut off and carb. No troubles with ethanol since, but I still think it is a foolish, false solution to our energy crisis.