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busmania · 01-06-2023, 04:14 PM

I am at the parts accumulation phase while I tear down my car and get it ready for the fun part (the rebuild). I am confused on the wiring as there are so many options. Can you help me?

First, how many harnesses are there in a 40 coupe? Front harness, engine harness, harness in the passenger compartment, dash harness and tail light?

Is there somewhere I can buy all of it together? What/who do you all recommend? I'd like original style wiring.

Thank you!

mhsprecher · 01-06-2023, 04:17 PM

Tyree Harris is a good choice. 804-556-5200.

Ggmac · 01-06-2023, 04:23 PM

Another vote for Tyree Harris . Excellent.

rockfla · 01-06-2023, 04:57 PM

I believe these guys IF you are looking for concourse correct!!!

www.narragansettreproductions.com

Lawson Cox · 01-06-2023, 05:09 PM

Tyree Harris, HANDS DOWN.

TJ · 01-06-2023, 05:51 PM

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I have used the harnesses from Sacramento Vintage Ford. Very economical and the wiring is all done to Ford specs with correct color coding , etc.

rotorwrench · 01-06-2023, 07:18 PM

Bauer Electronics makes a lot of the wire kits that are sold by parts sources.

Rhode Island Wiring and Narragansett Reproductions were founded by the Pease brothers but they have separate operations now. I think Ed (Rhode Island Wiring) died back in 2018 but they are still operating as far as I know. They started out in business together but didn't stay together for one reason or another. Both companies make good products though.

51504bat · 01-06-2023, 07:39 PM

High quality original wiring that can be modified to your particular needs like turn signals, etc.
https://www.ynzyesterdaysparts.com/

DavidG · 01-06-2023, 09:35 PM

IMO Tyree Harris is the worst possible choice and Rhode Island Wiring is the best.

Lawson Cox · 01-06-2023, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidG

IMO Tyree Harris is the worst possible choice and Rhode Island Wiring is the best.

You know what they say about opinions and belly buttons (I cleaned that up somewhat), everybody's got one. My 2 ¢.

V8COOPMAN · 01-07-2023, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawson Cox

You know what they say about opinions and belly buttons (I cleaned that up somewhat), everybody's got one. My 2 ¢.

I believe that instead of some cute retort referencing some dysfunctional guy's nether parts, I'd be more inclined to ask David(G) what inherent problems he found with Tyree's products, as well as his comments on the advantages associated with Rhode Island Wiring's products, especially since he seemed pretty adamant about his assertions. I think that David's knowledge and experience have essentially proven his astute judgement when it comes to recognizing quality pieces.

Coop

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Kube · 01-07-2023, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

I believe that instead of some cute retort referencing some dysfunctional guy's nether parts, I'd be more inclined to ask David(G) what inherent problems he found with Tyree's products, as well as his comments on the advantages associated with Rhode Island Wiring's products, especially since he seemed pretty adamant about his assertions. I think that David's knowledge and experience have essentially proven his astute judgement when it comes to recognizing quality pieces.

Coop

.

Yes sir! x2

Seth Swoboda · 01-07-2023, 11:23 AM

I'm asking because I don't know, how much of the wiring that the vendors sell actually comes from Bauer Electronics?

51504bat · 01-07-2023, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Swoboda

I'm asking because I don't know, how much of the wiring that the vendors sell actually comes from Bauer Electronics?

Can't speak for other vendors but I know for a fact YnZ's makes their harnesses in house. I've personally seen their operation and it's impressive.

baceves · 01-07-2023, 12:38 PM

I got all my wiring harnesses from MACs Auto parts around 12 years ago and till this day i have had no problems. Each harness also came with its own schematic diagram. I really enjoyed doing all the wiring as it was a simple plug and play. The engine and car components that are on the receiving end of the harnesses can be another issue.

busmania · 01-07-2023, 02:34 PM

Thanks everyone. I’ll check them all out.

I’m mostly going stock but would like to add turn signals. Is it best to just wire those separately or to pony up and have a custom harness made? I’m trying not to get too pricey here as I also have an engine to rebuild, bodywork to do, suspension and blah blah blah!

DavidG · 01-07-2023, 02:59 PM

Coop,

The '32 Harris harnesses that I've been stuck with were improperly constructed and would not fit far enough into the left side wire conduit that attaches to the intake manifold. The end result was that neither the generator output wire nor the distributor input wire were long enough to reach their destination.. When consulted on this shortcoming (

), he would neither fix what I had, offer a refund, nor agree to change what he was doing incorrectly.

Rhode Island Wiring is a class act. Their on-the-shelf items match the original Ford engineering drawings in my experience and their custom work for super-rare early variants such as pre-fuse-block, steering column bracket-mounted resistor, RHD '32 V8 full harness was perfect (and reasonable). The have a long lead times, but the wait is worth it.

rotorwrench · 01-07-2023, 07:59 PM

Harris may be using Bauer Electronics for cloth covered wire but I don't know for sure. Mac's sold Bauer stuff too. A person can tell the stuff is Bauer made if they look at the diagram sheet that come with the harness purchased. They usually have their name printed on there. Bauer's site indicated that they lacquer coat the cloth wire covering but the harnesses I got some years ago had no lacquer applied at all. It was cheaper but I got what I paid for. I purchased it through Mac's. This was for a 1951 Mercury and it fit fine through the body and that but the wire is a bit larger in diameter than original so I had a hard time getting the wiring for the turn signal switch to run up through the steering column.

The clear lacquer helps the woven cloth covering stay in better condition. It's disheartening seeing how fast the color fades on stuff that has no protective coating.

Newc · 01-07-2023, 08:05 PM

For my B pickup, I had to go with Rhode Island and they need advance orders. Don't wait. Newc

TJ · 01-07-2023, 08:20 PM

Sacramento Vintage Ford made their harnesses in house and have for years. As far as I know they still do.

01-06-2023, 04:14 PM	#1
busmania Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Denver metro Posts: 513	All new wiring...from who? I am at the parts accumulation phase while I tear down my car and get it ready for the fun part (the rebuild). I am confused on the wiring as there are so many options. Can you help me? First, how many harnesses are there in a 40 coupe? Front harness, engine harness, harness in the passenger compartment, dash harness and tail light? Is there somewhere I can buy all of it together? What/who do you all recommend? I'd like original style wiring. Thank you! __________________ 40 ford coupe Build -https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...coupe.1277406/

01-06-2023, 04:17 PM	#2
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,963	Re: All new wiring...from who? Tyree Harris is a good choice. 804-556-5200. __________________ 1910 Model T Touring 1924 Model T Coupe 1928 Model A Roadster 1930 Model A Town Sedan 1939 Deluxe Fordor 1945 pickup 1951 Custom convertible

01-06-2023, 04:23 PM	#3
Ggmac Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Lake worth Florida Posts: 1,376	Re: All new wiring...from who? Another vote for Tyree Harris . Excellent.

01-06-2023, 04:57 PM	#4
rockfla Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 4,807	Re: All new wiring...from who? I believe these guys IF you are looking for concourse correct!!! www.narragansettreproductions.com

01-06-2023, 05:09 PM	#5
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,082	Re: All new wiring...from who? Tyree Harris, HANDS DOWN. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

01-06-2023, 05:51 PM	#6
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,568	Re: All new wiring...from who? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I have used the harnesses from Sacramento Vintage Ford. Very economical and the wiring is all done to Ford specs with correct color coding , etc.

01-06-2023, 07:18 PM	#7
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 17,411	Re: All new wiring...from who? Bauer Electronics makes a lot of the wire kits that are sold by parts sources. Rhode Island Wiring and Narragansett Reproductions were founded by the Pease brothers but they have separate operations now. I think Ed (Rhode Island Wiring) died back in 2018 but they are still operating as far as I know. They started out in business together but didn't stay together for one reason or another. Both companies make good products though.

01-06-2023, 07:39 PM	#8
51504bat Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: SoCal-Redlands Posts: 3,413	Re: All new wiring...from who? High quality original wiring that can be modified to your particular needs like turn signals, etc. https://www.ynzyesterdaysparts.com/ __________________ Making the simple complicated for over 30 years.

01-06-2023, 09:35 PM	#9
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,601	Re: All new wiring...from who? IMO Tyree Harris is the worst possible choice and Rhode Island Wiring is the best.

01-07-2023, 11:23 AM	#13
Seth Swoboda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 4,079	Re: All new wiring...from who? I'm asking because I don't know, how much of the wiring that the vendors sell actually comes from Bauer Electronics?

01-07-2023, 12:38 PM	#15
baceves Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: La Puente, CA Posts: 32	Re: All new wiring...from who? I got all my wiring harnesses from MACs Auto parts around 12 years ago and till this day i have had no problems. Each harness also came with its own schematic diagram. I really enjoyed doing all the wiring as it was a simple plug and play. The engine and car components that are on the receiving end of the harnesses can be another issue.

01-07-2023, 02:34 PM	#16
busmania Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Denver metro Posts: 513	Re: All new wiring...from who? Thanks everyone. I’ll check them all out. I’m mostly going stock but would like to add turn signals. Is it best to just wire those separately or to pony up and have a custom harness made? I’m trying not to get too pricey here as I also have an engine to rebuild, bodywork to do, suspension and blah blah blah! __________________ 40 ford coupe Build -https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...coupe.1277406/

01-07-2023, 02:59 PM	#17
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,601	Re: All new wiring...from who? Coop, The '32 Harris harnesses that I've been stuck with were improperly constructed and would not fit far enough into the left side wire conduit that attaches to the intake manifold. The end result was that neither the generator output wire nor the distributor input wire were long enough to reach their destination.. When consulted on this shortcoming (), he would neither fix what I had, offer a refund, nor agree to change what he was doing incorrectly. Rhode Island Wiring is a class act. Their on-the-shelf items match the original Ford engineering drawings in my experience and their custom work for super-rare early variants such as pre-fuse-block, steering column bracket-mounted resistor, RHD '32 V8 full harness was perfect (and reasonable). The have a long lead times, but the wait is worth it.

01-07-2023, 07:59 PM	#18
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 17,411	Re: All new wiring...from who? Harris may be using Bauer Electronics for cloth covered wire but I don't know for sure. Mac's sold Bauer stuff too. A person can tell the stuff is Bauer made if they look at the diagram sheet that come with the harness purchased. They usually have their name printed on there. Bauer's site indicated that they lacquer coat the cloth wire covering but the harnesses I got some years ago had no lacquer applied at all. It was cheaper but I got what I paid for. I purchased it through Mac's. This was for a 1951 Mercury and it fit fine through the body and that but the wire is a bit larger in diameter than original so I had a hard time getting the wiring for the turn signal switch to run up through the steering column. The clear lacquer helps the woven cloth covering stay in better condition. It's disheartening seeing how fast the color fades on stuff that has no protective coating. Last edited by rotorwrench; 01-07-2023 at 08:04 PM.

01-07-2023, 08:05 PM	#19
Newc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,914	Re: All new wiring...from who? For my B pickup, I had to go with Rhode Island and they need advance orders. Don't wait. Newc

01-07-2023, 08:20 PM	#20
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,568	Re: All new wiring...from who? Sacramento Vintage Ford made their harnesses in house and have for years. As far as I know they still do.