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FIEND42 · 07-05-2016, 06:14 PM

I just read the posts on the removal of the tank on my 39 Std. coupe. Pry the frame rails to get it out? I mean really? Alright and to put it back in? Pry the frame again? There must be someone who trimmed something, the tank or frame to make it easier to go back in and out again if the occasion arose in the future, or is there another way? Also the single bolt with the spring is for frame flex, but how does it work and how tight against the spring should it be? Any pictures of the set-up? Thanks folks.

alanwoodieman · 07-05-2016, 09:54 PM

removing the tank from frame with body attached is pretty hard. on tanks with the short connecting tube, such as yours, it is even harder. remove bolts, fill hose, gas line and the sender unit wire, slid tank to pass side and lift up that end as you do so. this is where most guys result in using a prybar to push the tank even further over to pass side while trying to get filler end to come down. some of the repro tanks have a weld seam with wider left over metal which can make them even harder to put back, you can trim off excess as long as you don't mess with the weld

TonyM · 07-05-2016, 11:22 PM

I have done this a few times. Never had to pry the frame or anything else apart.
Muscle the tank over to the right and it should drop down on the left.

Did you remember to disconnect the tail pipe from the frame and move it over to give you some room on the right?

SofaKing · 07-06-2016, 08:36 AM

What's been described was my experience also. I did trim a little of the excess steel flange off, outboard of the weld. I also had to re-contour the Drake reproduction tank a little because the walls on the ends did not match the more vertical profile on the OEM tank. I was working on 39 PU. Sorry no pictures of the mods. I preloaded the spring only a little, enough so the tank didn't move with hand pressure but not so much as to worry about coil bind. When I got it back in I did have to grind a little off the inner fender well so the fill tube would fit. I do not recall with 100% certainty if the fill tube or mount holes were off but I didn't catch it until the tank was bolted down and there was no way I wanted to wrestle it out again.

Seth Swoboda · 07-06-2016, 08:44 AM

I have always wondered why Drake and the like can't reproduce a fuel tank to the exact specifications of the Ford tank. It takes just as much time to do the job correctly as it does to make a crappy reproduction. Makes no sense. I just hate to buy stuff from guys like Drake because a lot of what they reproduce is still crap. I'd rather find NOS or used original parts here on the fordbarn.

FIEND42 · 07-06-2016, 11:33 AM

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Thanks all, I hope this tank comes out by prying. I'll know later. Why is it that if we all, mostly, agree on the crap quality of retro parts they are still out there. I for one bitch back to whatever outfit I got the junk from, but always to no avail. I just posted the horrible time I had with headlight sockets and bulbs. Never again. I would like to find some original headlight reflectors and sockets for my 39 Std. coupe but who has any of this stuff? I have 39/40 pieces to trade or sell.

Seth Swoboda · 07-06-2016, 11:38 AM

Place a want ad on the swap page , you would be amazed at what you will come up with. As for as wiring and light sockets, contact Tyree Harriss at 804-556-5200. Tyree makes all the wiring harnesses himself and they are excellent quality. He is located in Bumpass VA. I just spoke with him on the phone Monday.

RKS.PA · 07-06-2016, 11:42 AM

I replaced the tank on my '39 Deluxe Fordor with a tank from Denis Carpenter. Not sure who made it, but their shipping to AZ was the best I could find. As others above have said, I was able to slide it in without prying or grinding anything. Hardest part was doing this lying on my back....before I got my 4 post lift!!!

Good luck. Am very happy with my new tank.

Dick.

07-05-2016, 06:14 PM	#1
FIEND42 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Libertyville Il. 60048 Posts: 52	39 gas tank removal I just read the posts on the removal of the tank on my 39 Std. coupe. Pry the frame rails to get it out? I mean really? Alright and to put it back in? Pry the frame again? There must be someone who trimmed something, the tank or frame to make it easier to go back in and out again if the occasion arose in the future, or is there another way? Also the single bolt with the spring is for frame flex, but how does it work and how tight against the spring should it be? Any pictures of the set-up? Thanks folks.

07-05-2016, 09:54 PM	#2
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 3,000	Re: 39 gas tank removal removing the tank from frame with body attached is pretty hard. on tanks with the short connecting tube, such as yours, it is even harder. remove bolts, fill hose, gas line and the sender unit wire, slid tank to pass side and lift up that end as you do so. this is where most guys result in using a prybar to push the tank even further over to pass side while trying to get filler end to come down. some of the repro tanks have a weld seam with wider left over metal which can make them even harder to put back, you can trim off excess as long as you don't mess with the weld

07-05-2016, 11:22 PM	#3
TonyM Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: West Hammond, Illinois Posts: 2,852	Re: 39 gas tank removal I have done this a few times. Never had to pry the frame or anything else apart. Muscle the tank over to the right and it should drop down on the left. Did you remember to disconnect the tail pipe from the frame and move it over to give you some room on the right?

07-06-2016, 08:36 AM	#4
SofaKing Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 756	Re: 39 gas tank removal What's been described was my experience also. I did trim a little of the excess steel flange off, outboard of the weld. I also had to re-contour the Drake reproduction tank a little because the walls on the ends did not match the more vertical profile on the OEM tank. I was working on 39 PU. Sorry no pictures of the mods. I preloaded the spring only a little, enough so the tank didn't move with hand pressure but not so much as to worry about coil bind. When I got it back in I did have to grind a little off the inner fender well so the fill tube would fit. I do not recall with 100% certainty if the fill tube or mount holes were off but I didn't catch it until the tank was bolted down and there was no way I wanted to wrestle it out again.

07-06-2016, 08:44 AM	#5
Seth Swoboda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 4,079	Re: 39 gas tank removal I have always wondered why Drake and the like can't reproduce a fuel tank to the exact specifications of the Ford tank. It takes just as much time to do the job correctly as it does to make a crappy reproduction. Makes no sense. I just hate to buy stuff from guys like Drake because a lot of what they reproduce is still crap. I'd rather find NOS or used original parts here on the fordbarn.

07-06-2016, 11:33 AM	#6
FIEND42 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Libertyville Il. 60048 Posts: 52	Re: 39 gas tank removal Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thanks all, I hope this tank comes out by prying. I'll know later. Why is it that if we all, mostly, agree on the crap quality of retro parts they are still out there. I for one bitch back to whatever outfit I got the junk from, but always to no avail. I just posted the horrible time I had with headlight sockets and bulbs. Never again. I would like to find some original headlight reflectors and sockets for my 39 Std. coupe but who has any of this stuff? I have 39/40 pieces to trade or sell.

07-06-2016, 11:38 AM	#7
Seth Swoboda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 4,079	Re: 39 gas tank removal Place a want ad on the swap page , you would be amazed at what you will come up with. As for as wiring and light sockets, contact Tyree Harriss at 804-556-5200. Tyree makes all the wiring harnesses himself and they are excellent quality. He is located in Bumpass VA. I just spoke with him on the phone Monday.

07-06-2016, 11:42 AM	#8
RKS.PA Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oro Valley, AZ Posts: 1,241	Re: 39 gas tank removal I replaced the tank on my '39 Deluxe Fordor with a tank from Denis Carpenter. Not sure who made it, but their shipping to AZ was the best I could find. As others above have said, I was able to slide it in without prying or grinding anything. Hardest part was doing this lying on my back....before I got my 4 post lift!!! Good luck. Am very happy with my new tank. Dick.