The Ford Barn

1stford · 09-23-2016, 03:36 PM

Still having problems posting pictures of my project so hoping one day I will figure that out. I do have 3 questions that I'm hoping to get some info on so thank you in advance for the help. 1936 Ford Truck. I'm trying to keep it "Pretty close" to original.

1). I have a gas tank and its in good shape but want it restored. Is there a best way to restore it on my own, send it to someone to do it, or a good tank to buy to replace it.

2). Need to do exhaust and wondering what is the best system to buy to make it original, maybe someone who specializes in it.

3). Have the original radiator and need it to be rebuilt. Any experience on having one redone vs having one from someone like Walker in Memphis.

Thanks so much.
Jeremie

rotorwrench · 09-24-2016, 11:12 AM

The tank can be cleaned & sealed as long as it isn't too rusty inside. Bill Hirsh sells a kit for this. Some folks say the sealant breaks down with the modern ethanol fuels but I haven't experienced any problems yet. Tanks Inc makes reproductions and several others but I don't know if they reproduce a truck type tank or not. Fuel quantity system might be affected by this if you have an electrical type system in the 36. The new type tanks generally have a different sender mounting boss than OEM.

Trucks generally have a relatively simple exhaust system with a cross over from the left to right and a tail pipe to right rear. I don't know if anyone reproduces these for trucks but a good muffler shop could likely make one that will work if not.

Radiator shops that actually recore a radiator are few and far between now days. There are still a few left but mostly in larger urban areas. The Brass Works and Walker are expensive but this is all likely done by hand and labor is not cheap. Your old tanks & supports would have to be in good condition to do a recore. The modern one may be made to hold higher pressure than the old 36 was ever made to take.

banjoQ · 09-24-2016, 11:39 AM

Maybe your tank is in better shape than mine was, a close inspection on your part is called for. Personally, I went ahead and replaced mine with one from Drake. Know that the original sending unit will not work with these. You will also need to get a sender from them also. It comes in pieces in a bag. Some assembly required! They seem to work just fine after some tinkering, at least mine does. Filler pipe is a bear to fit and seal properly, at least mine was.
RW is correct about the crossover pipe, hopefully yours is salvageable, if it's there at all. Not needing to be correct, I went with duel exhaust. Used 1 3/4" tubes with glasspaks. Sounds OK to me. I understand this is a personal preference, but cost was a factor in my decision.
I just recently had my radiator re-cored. I looked at all the catalog aluminum ones and made my decision to go with original tanks and a new core. The money spent for a new aluminum one vs a re-core didn't make sense to me. You will need to modify it to get it to fit and then it's still aluminum. Cooling is important for a flathead, no time to go cheap here. Fan clearance is also something to consider if looking at the new aluminum ones. I am very happy with the results of the re-core, 180 degrees no matter what. Finding a shop to do this work will be almost as hard as paying for it as this work does not come cheap. IMHO, it's worth it. Good luck with the truck, you'll get there.

JT FORD · 09-24-2016, 12:01 PM

I had a '49 car re-cored, bass and copper, angle irons sand blasted, four outlets re soldered, painted. Looks like new. cost $500. I did the removal and re-install.

1stford · 09-24-2016, 07:52 PM

Any difference between the Gas tank restore kit that Bill Hirsch sells vs Eastwood? Are they both the same. Wondering if anyone has had experience with them.

Thanks

1stford · 01-29-2017, 11:18 PM

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I'm bringing this topic back up because I'm still looking for some info on exhaust:

I need to get a muffler and didn't know if anyone sells NOS stuff of who makes a good repro? I have nothing exhaust related at all and have seen some pre bent stuff in MAC's book but didn't know anything about that stuff.

G.M. · 01-30-2017, 08:06 AM

Some parts dealers sell a copy of the original muffler, Roy Nazowitz in
Mi. is one. Most pre bent pipes can be made to work but need some
rebending. A GOOD muffler shop can make pipes the work. Keep the
pipe that runs close to the tank as far away from the tank as possible.
When the tank is low in hot weather heating the gas causes vapor lock.
G.M.

jimTN · 01-30-2017, 08:32 AM

According to past posts, your truck is a PU and should use the same exhaust components as a 35/6 car. MAC's exhaust parts should fit, may be a bit pricy but about as good as you will find. Your radiator also should be the same as the car according to my intrep. of the parts book.

09-23-2016, 03:36 PM	#1
1stford Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 297	2 Questions (Gas tank & Exhaust System) Still having problems posting pictures of my project so hoping one day I will figure that out. I do have 3 questions that I'm hoping to get some info on so thank you in advance for the help. 1936 Ford Truck. I'm trying to keep it "Pretty close" to original. 1). I have a gas tank and its in good shape but want it restored. Is there a best way to restore it on my own, send it to someone to do it, or a good tank to buy to replace it. 2). Need to do exhaust and wondering what is the best system to buy to make it original, maybe someone who specializes in it. 3). Have the original radiator and need it to be rebuilt. Any experience on having one redone vs having one from someone like Walker in Memphis. Thanks so much. Jeremie

09-24-2016, 11:12 AM	#2
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 18,006	Re: 2 Questions (Gas tank & Exhaust System) The tank can be cleaned & sealed as long as it isn't too rusty inside. Bill Hirsh sells a kit for this. Some folks say the sealant breaks down with the modern ethanol fuels but I haven't experienced any problems yet. Tanks Inc makes reproductions and several others but I don't know if they reproduce a truck type tank or not. Fuel quantity system might be affected by this if you have an electrical type system in the 36. The new type tanks generally have a different sender mounting boss than OEM. Trucks generally have a relatively simple exhaust system with a cross over from the left to right and a tail pipe to right rear. I don't know if anyone reproduces these for trucks but a good muffler shop could likely make one that will work if not. Radiator shops that actually recore a radiator are few and far between now days. There are still a few left but mostly in larger urban areas. The Brass Works and Walker are expensive but this is all likely done by hand and labor is not cheap. Your old tanks & supports would have to be in good condition to do a recore. The modern one may be made to hold higher pressure than the old 36 was ever made to take.

09-24-2016, 11:39 AM	#3
banjoQ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Pacifica, Ca. Posts: 299	Re: 2 Questions (Gas tank & Exhaust System) Maybe your tank is in better shape than mine was, a close inspection on your part is called for. Personally, I went ahead and replaced mine with one from Drake. Know that the original sending unit will not work with these. You will also need to get a sender from them also. It comes in pieces in a bag. Some assembly required! They seem to work just fine after some tinkering, at least mine does. Filler pipe is a bear to fit and seal properly, at least mine was. RW is correct about the crossover pipe, hopefully yours is salvageable, if it's there at all. Not needing to be correct, I went with duel exhaust. Used 1 3/4" tubes with glasspaks. Sounds OK to me. I understand this is a personal preference, but cost was a factor in my decision. I just recently had my radiator re-cored. I looked at all the catalog aluminum ones and made my decision to go with original tanks and a new core. The money spent for a new aluminum one vs a re-core didn't make sense to me. You will need to modify it to get it to fit and then it's still aluminum. Cooling is important for a flathead, no time to go cheap here. Fan clearance is also something to consider if looking at the new aluminum ones. I am very happy with the results of the re-core, 180 degrees no matter what. Finding a shop to do this work will be almost as hard as paying for it as this work does not come cheap. IMHO, it's worth it. Good luck with the truck, you'll get there.

09-24-2016, 12:01 PM	#4
JT FORD Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: N.W. Iowa Posts: 306	Re: 2 Questions (Gas tank & Exhaust System) I had a '49 car re-cored, bass and copper, angle irons sand blasted, four outlets re soldered, painted. Looks like new. cost $500. I did the removal and re-install.

09-24-2016, 07:52 PM	#5
1stford Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 297	Re: 2 Questions (Gas tank & Exhaust System) Any difference between the Gas tank restore kit that Bill Hirsch sells vs Eastwood? Are they both the same. Wondering if anyone has had experience with them. Thanks

01-29-2017, 11:18 PM	#6
1stford Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 297	Re: 2 Questions (Gas tank & Exhaust System) Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I'm bringing this topic back up because I'm still looking for some info on exhaust: I need to get a muffler and didn't know if anyone sells NOS stuff of who makes a good repro? I have nothing exhaust related at all and have seen some pre bent stuff in MAC's book but didn't know anything about that stuff.

01-30-2017, 08:06 AM	#7
G.M. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida and Penna. Posts: 4,471	Re: 2 Questions (Gas tank & Exhaust System) Some parts dealers sell a copy of the original muffler, Roy Nazowitz in Mi. is one. Most pre bent pipes can be made to work but need some rebending. A GOOD muffler shop can make pipes the work. Keep the pipe that runs close to the tank as far away from the tank as possible. When the tank is low in hot weather heating the gas causes vapor lock. G.M. __________________ www.fordcollector.com

01-30-2017, 08:32 AM	#8
jimTN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Powell, TN Posts: 2,645	Re: 2 Questions (Gas tank & Exhaust System) According to past posts, your truck is a PU and should use the same exhaust components as a 35/6 car. MAC's exhaust parts should fit, may be a bit pricy but about as good as you will find. Your radiator also should be the same as the car according to my intrep. of the parts book.