Model A Engine Installation

[BNewman]

Advice Needed !!

I have both the engine and transmission out of my '31 Victoria.
My question is what is the better way for installation:
1. Engine and transmission as a unit?
2. Transmission & bell housing first, then engine with clutch and clutch housing attached.

Thanks,
Bob

[Gary WA]

Originally Posted by BNewman

Advice Needed !!

I have both the engine and transmission out of my '31 Victoria.
My question is what is the better way for installation:
1. Engine and transmission as a unit?
2. Transmission & flywheel housing first, then engine?

Thanks,
Bob

tranny,housing then engine is my preference

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by Gary WA

tranny,housing then engine is my preference

Shouldn't the flywheel housing be attached to the engine and installed as a unit?

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by CarlG

Shouldn't the flywheel housing be attached to the engine and installed as a unit?

yep

[Mitch//pa]

here is a former post on the topic
http://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread...engine+install

[Fred K-OR]

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I think you will get a number of comments both ways. But I would do your #1 option assuming you have the tools to do it that way and some help in doing it.

[Synchro909]

If you put the engine and transmission in as a unit, you have to get the torque tube shaft lined up with the universal joint for them to go together. DON"T be tempted to use your fingers to do it. When they slip together, you could lose them.

[Tom Wesenberg]

I prefer to install the tranny, then the engine.

[Larry Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

I prefer to install the tranny, then the engine.

Tom..

Can you offer some step-by-step details? When you say "engine," does that mean the flywheel, clutch plate and flywheel housing attached?

Can you even attach the tranny before dropping it in? Assembly problems?

Thank you!

Larry

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Larry Jenkins

Tom..

Can you offer some step-by-step details? When you say "engine," does that mean the flywheel, clutch plate and flywheel housing attached?

Can you even attach the tranny before dropping it in? Assembly problems?

Thank you!

Larry

Yes, the flywheel and flywheel housing must be installed if the engine is installed after the tranny. Be sure to set the fingers on the pressure plate while it's out, and use a clutch alignment tool to make sure the disc is centered. If the alignment tool wasn't available I've used my fingers to center the disc by going around the outer edge, and this has also worked fine for me.

[Mitch//pa]

if the body is off i install them as a unit. otherwise trans first

[Larry Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

if the body is off i install them as a unit. otherwise trans first

Body is off; frame is bare except the motor mounts.

If so, can I drop in the whole engine with the tranny on it? Clearances; assembly problems?

Thank you Sir!

Larry

[Fred K-OR]

Originally Posted by Larry Jenkins

Body is off; frame is bare except the motor mounts.

If so, can I drop in the whole engine with the tranny on it? Clearances; assembly problems?

Thank you Sir!

Larry

This is how I did it on my huckster and it worked great. But like mentioned, look out for your fingers when putting in the u-joint.

[larrys40]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

if the body is off i install them as a unit. otherwise trans first

I agree with Mitch . It is easier to get the engine in the mounts and splines line up on the clutch than it is to deal with the floppiness of the u-joint to get it in the mounts and splines if the driveshaft at the exact same time

I have done both ways and can be done either way, but for a novice I would opt to do them separately

Get a helper or two to assist you as well
Also, as Tom noted its the time to make sure the pressure plate is set up properly . See specs and procedures in les Andrews mechanical book
Larry Shepard

[BNewman]

Thanks

[BNewman]

Good call. Thanks.

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by Larry Jenkins

Body is off; frame is bare except the motor mounts.

If so, can I drop in the whole engine with the tranny on it? Clearances; assembly problems?

Thank you Sir!

Larry

thats the way i would do it with the body off. one thing to look out for is the u-joint housing gaskets dont slide out of place. put a couple temporary bolts in the holes while mating things together

[harleytoprock]

How about with body on and rear diff is out? Can motor/trans assembly be installed as unit with no problems?

[George Miller]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

I prefer to install the tranny, then the engine.

My way also.

[glenn in camino]

I always assemble everything back to. and including, the U joint, and install it all together. Get a friend to help guide it. Also you may need a frame spreader.