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Old 09-05-2014, 11:37 AM   #1
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Default This doesn't look correct - possible motor mount issue?

I have seen other members' pictures of their engines and their engines line up better, when comparing the top radiator hose. It looks as though my engine has dropped in the back causing the wrong angle for the top radiator hose. Also, the fan blades are not at an equal distance from the radiator. As shown in the pictures, the top blade is approximately 1.25" from the radiator where the bottom blade is only .5" away.

Pictures are of the radiator hose alignment, fan (distance from radiator) and motor mounts.

Your thoughts or remedies are appreciated. --Jeremy

(Edit: forgive the side-shot photos)
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:42 AM   #2
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Default Re: This doesn't look correct - possible motor mount issue?

Looks like you have a 30-31 water outlet, the 28-29 is shorter.
The engine sits at an angle so the fan has more clearance at the top.

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Old 09-05-2014, 11:45 AM   #3
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You have the old aftermarket conical spring front mount. I had this on my '30 Coupe and it caused the crank pulley to misalign with the crank hole, which meant I couldn't use the hand crank to turn the engine over (when timing the distributor). Replacing this front mount with a new front mount from Snyder's resolved the problem. It's a bit involved to replace but well worth it. PM me and I can tell you which parts to order and how I removed the old one and replaced it with a new one.

However, I'm also wondering if you have the correct water outlet on your engine. It looks too tall to me, but I'm not an expert on various versions of Model As. Perhaps you could provide more information as to which year and model you have, and some of the more experienced members can weigh in on that.
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Bob is right about the upper water outlet; you need the shorter one for 28-29s. Huddy is right about the front motor mount. Both easy fixes.
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Old 09-05-2014, 01:45 PM   #5
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Its a 1929 Tudor
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Old 09-05-2014, 02:39 PM   #6
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See my PM on how I replaced my front motor mount.

Also, I had FAM mounts. You have original type. You'll need to loosen them to jack the engine. Also you may want to remove the throttle assembly to avoid crushing it against the firewall. I didn't do that; probably should've.

If some one on the Barn has experience with this, please chime in!
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Old 09-05-2014, 02:53 PM   #7
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FAM = Float Aftermarket Mount?

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Old 09-05-2014, 03:21 PM   #8
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FAM = Float Aftermarket Mount?

Thanks, huddy. --J
FAM= Float-A-Motor (aftermarket engine mount).

Rather controversial in these here parts. (Guys, I inherited it that way!!)
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:35 PM   #9
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All that matters is the train whistle works!

I'd replace the cast outlet with the correct shorter one and see if that's good without having to change the front mount spring. Does the hand crank fit OK?

If you cange the front engine mount spring you will need to remove at least one rear mounting bolt from each side and loosen the other. It also looks like the repro radiator inlet pipe angles down a bit too much.
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:30 PM   #10
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I agree with Bob C , 700 rpm and Tom . The upper water outlet is the taller 30-31 part and the radiator upper inlet looks to be angled downward . We only see this on some of the28-29 repro radiators . I had the same problem on my september 29 and had to shorten the repro two blade fan for clearance to avoid contact with the upper hose . the old four blade truck fans have shorter blades. and clear the hose in most cases .
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:25 PM   #11
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Here are a couple pictures showing all original parts. I cut a piece of paper to an angle that fits the vertical of the tank and the bottom of the inlet, and as close as I can measure it looks to be about 35*.
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