Owner of Recovered Ford Model A Doesn’t Want Vehicle Back

[DougVieyra]

From the CLAIMS JOURNAL newsletter comes this Dec.13th report:

"Remember that Ford Model A stolen from a Willow Valley, Pa., resident this summer and recovered a few weeks ago?

The one where the insurance company had, shortly before its recovery, settled for $20,000?

The one where if one-time owner Ralph Wright wanted the car back he’d have to bid on it at auction?

Well, he no longer wants it.

The insurance company offered Monday to return it after learning he had wanted it.

But Wright and his son turned down the offer. His son had gotten the car for him about 13 years ago for a Father’s Day gift.

“It just was more of a hassle than I needed at 84 years of age,” Wright said Tuesday.

He’d have to get a new title because the car now has a salvage title.

And he’s got nowhere to keep it – he wouldn’t use where it was stolen from again, he said. It’s also got some damage, and well, he had even thought about selling it over the past couple years.

“Before too long, I’m going to have to give up my driver’s license,” Wright said.

He said he appreciated the insurance company representatives reaching out to him and said they’ve been cooperative throughout, but it’s time to move on.

A spokesman for Assurant Specialty Property said “standard practice is that once a claim is paid, what if anything that is left of the property reverts to the insurer. This was an unusual claim as the car was recovered after the claim was paid in full.”

The company was pleased the matter worked out, spokesman Robert Byrd said."
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- So bureaucacy and old age has ended another caretaker of a Ford Model A.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Sadly, maybe it is a good thing. Sometimes our ages limit us of continuing to do things we shouldn't (I.e.: like still drive!! , or hiking long trails on car tours , ...or skydiving ). Maybe it is best for the car too where someone will become the new owner and enjoy it too.

[SDJason]

I hope whoever gets it keeps it as a Model A, and not turn it into some sort of hot or rat rod project

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Originally Posted by SDJason

I hope whoever gets it keeps it as a Model A, and not turn it into some sort of hot or rat rod project

Why would anyone even CARE? (GEEZ!) Bill W.

[700rpm]

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Why would anyone even CARE? (GEEZ!) Bill W.

I care because I see myself as a caretaker of my cars and of automotive history, more than an owner. Historical artifacts are important to posterity, for future generations to understand and, we hope, appreciate where they come from. There is a lot to be learned from an old and original item, be it a car, a steam train, a Colt Army .44-40, a P-51, a house, a stamp, or myriad other things that are no longer part of our day-to-day lives but will never be made again. But that's just my personal attitude.

[jkeesey]

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Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Why would anyone even CARE? (GEEZ!) Bill W.

Thank you Bill.

[Roadster62]

Is this the tan Fordor that we talked about a few months ago? Bob

[SDJason]

Well, to each his own...but given the choice I'd prefer to see this on the road:


and not this:

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by SDJason

Well, to each his own...but given the choice I'd prefer to see this on the road:


and not this:

Or this and white walls to boot

[al's28/33]

I agree with Ray. My wife teases me she's gonna trash all my stuff if I die before her, she's joking but deep down I think she's tellin the truth. Who is gonna care for all those things like I did ?? I have family photos, geneology heirlooms of my own history and I want to believe my children would care for them to pass along to next generation.....so of course my cars should be cared for too....otherwise the cemetery is going to be digging a big hole for my "A" to rest beside me!

[Mad Mac]

Originally Posted by al's28/33

Who is gonna care for all those things like I did ?? I have family photos, geneology heirlooms of my own history and I want to believe my children would care for them to pass along to next generation.....so of course my cars should be cared for too....otherwise the cemetery is going to be digging a big hole for my "A" to rest beside me!

My thoughts exactly. I worry about what will happen to all my priceless family history stuff and my lovely open cab pickup when I am no longer around.

[ronn]

Dusty,
you forgot the fellers Christmas cap!

[pooch]

I think most of these original cars will die with us.

Then they will be just a typical deceased sale to go to who ever wants them.

The younger generation mostly have zero interest in old cars with old mechanicals.

Sure, there some that have kids that want to, and will inherit these cars, but I think that is in the minority.

I see all the vintage clubs over here steadily growing older and dieing off.

The clubs are just not attracting the young people with fresh interest to take over.

These cars are our own nostalgia, not theirs.

The hot rod clubs seem to have a similar age group of owners, but the mentality of the club is much much younger, and i do see far more first generation kids involved with the rod groups.

I see more grandkids involved with the vintage group, where the first generation of sons and daughters have grown tired of Dad's old car.

I feel the vintage clubs now are not much more than a social club.

Ralph , who owned this car in the topic, has had time to think, and the rose coloured glasses have come off and he has made a wise decision.

I know in the perfect world, we would all love to have our kids inherit and cherish our cars, but in most cases it ain't gunna happen.

[SteveB31]

Originally Posted by pooch

I think most of these original cars will die with us.

Then they will be just a typical deceased sale to go to who ever wants them.

The younger generation mostly have zero interest in old cars with old mechanicals.

Sure, there some that have kids that want to, and will inherit these cars, but I think that is in the minority.

I see all the vintage clubs over here steadily growing older and dieing off.

The clubs are just not attracting the young people with fresh interest to take over.


These cars are our own nostalgia, not theirs.

The hot rod clubs seem to have a similar age group of owners, but the mentality of the club is much much younger, and i do see far more first generation kids involved with the rod groups.

I see more grandkids involved with the vintage group, where the first generation of sons and daughters have grown tired of Dad's old car.

I feel the vintage clubs now are not much more than a social club.

Ralph , who owned this car in the topic, has had time to think, and the rose coloured glasses have come off and he has made a wise decision.

I know in the perfect world, we would all love to have our kids inherit and cherish our cars, but in most cases it ain't gunna happen.

I have been in this hobby for 30 years now, and have heard this same story for 30 years. These cars will out live all of us. When any of us pass away, the car is sold to someone else, or given away to someone else. That someone will enjoy the car for another 20 years, and he/she will pass it on to someone else for another 20 years and so on. The younger people tend to use the cars more, fix them more, and do not turn them all into hot rods. Many older folks tend to hang out with older folks. Most younger folks tend to hang out with younger folks. Many Model A clubs have the problem of being full of only older folks, so the younger folks are not interested in doing what the older folks want to do. The younger folks just drive their cars, without being members of a club, since the club is mostly full of older folks. My point is, the cars are here to stay- they just have different users after we are done with them.

Steve Becker
Berts Model A Center

[azmodela]

Originally Posted by SteveB31

Many older folks tend to hang out with older folks. Most younger folks tend to hang out with younger folks. Many Model A clubs have the problem of being full of only older folks, so the younger folks are not interested in doing what the older folks want to do. The younger folks just drive their cars, without being members of a club, since the club is mostly full of older folks. My point is, the cars are here to stay- they just have different users after we are done with them.

Steve Becker
Berts Model A Center

Steve summed it up pretty well...

[29tudorsedan]

Originally Posted by azmodela

Steve summed it up pretty well...

I agree with the agreement! I'm 20, and while college keeps me busy and away from the garage with my A in it, it's driven every weekend, and on breaks it's my go-to vehicle! I don't belong to a club, but my great uncle had a coupe when I was growing up and would always let me help with anything, so naturally I ended up with my Tudor in wanting to continue getting to work on an A and drive one. The most fun is taking a ride with my great uncle every time I'm in my A, even though he passed away this summer, I just hope his coupe gets taken care of by the family members that have it now!

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by 29tudorsedan

I agree with the agreement! I'm 20, and while college keeps me busy and away from the garage with my A in it, it's driven every weekend, and on breaks it's my go-to vehicle! I don't belong to a club, but my great uncle had a coupe when I was growing up and would always let me help with anything, so naturally I ended up with my Tudor in wanting to continue getting to work on an A and drive one. The most fun is taking a ride with my great uncle every time I'm in my A, even though he passed away this summer, I just hope his coupe gets taken care of by the family members that have it now!

Quite honestly, your story is very similar to the majority of people I encounter in my line of work. Your great Uncle created a connection for you to the Model-A, --and just like many others, there is usually a "bond" in some way where folks want to own a Model-A because of a time in their life they look upon favorably. And many others, just like you really do not have the time for a "club" but just owning one gives you/them joy & pleasure. Best wishes in your future career. When do you graduate and what is your major?

[dave in australia]

Originally Posted by pooch

I think most of these original cars will die with us.

Then they will be just a typical deceased sale to go to who ever wants them.

The younger generation mostly have zero interest in old cars with old mechanicals.

Sure, there some that have kids that want to, and will inherit these cars, but I think that is in the minority.

I see all the vintage clubs over here steadily growing older and dieing off.

The clubs are just not attracting the young people with fresh interest to take over.

These cars are our own nostalgia, not theirs.

The hot rod clubs seem to have a similar age group of owners, but the mentality of the club is much much younger, and i do see far more first generation kids involved with the rod groups.

I see more grandkids involved with the vintage group, where the first generation of sons and daughters have grown tired of Dad's old car.

I feel the vintage clubs now are not much more than a social club.

Ralph , who owned this car in the topic, has had time to think, and the rose coloured glasses have come off and he has made a wise decision.

I know in the perfect world, we would all love to have our kids inherit and cherish our cars, but in most cases it ain't gunna happen.

I get the same feeling down here in the deep dark southern state of Victoria. I am a member of two local car clubs, and would be close to being the youngest owner of a vintage car. Most vintage car owners are of my dads age. There is a lot of interest in the car club by younger members, but just not with vintage cars. Most around my age and younger own and drive 60's and 70's cars, which are old cars for them, and being 40-50 years old, they are. So I guess it is also a perception of what is old, plus what people want to drive. I know if I go any more than about an hour and a half, I am a wreck because of the driving conditions of the A, where as I can drive my BMW all day and feel fresh at the end, and I am really stuffed after 30min in my Durant. This makes driving vintage cars unpleasant for some, so they don't do it and drive something that is old, although not as old as a vintage car, but a lot more comfortable. Even my dad, an ardent Model A driver, talks about getting a 60's Australian Valiant so he can drive in car club events in comfort.

[Barry B./ Ma.]

Originally Posted by pooch

I think most of these original cars will die with us.

Then they will be just a typical deceased sale to go to who ever wants them.

The younger generation mostly have zero interest in old cars with old mechanicals.

Sure, there some that have kids that want to, and will inherit these cars, but I think that is in the minority.

I see all the vintage clubs over here steadily growing older and dieing off.

The clubs are just not attracting the young people with fresh interest to take over.

These cars are our own nostalgia, not theirs.

The hot rod clubs seem to have a similar age group of owners, but the mentality of the club is much much younger, and i do see far more first generation kids involved with the rod groups.

I see more grandkids involved with the vintage group, where the first generation of sons and daughters have grown tired of Dad's old car.

I feel the vintage clubs now are not much more than a social club.

Ralph , who owned this car in the topic, has had time to think, and the rose coloured glasses have come off and he has made a wise decision.

I know in the perfect world, we would all love to have our kids inherit and cherish our cars, but in most cases it ain't gunna happen.

Pooch, I think you hit the nail on the head. With my own situation I have 6 grandchildren and there isn't one that has any interest in my 2 Model A's and it's sad. I see it in the auctions, only a limited number of people are interested in the real antiques and most of the others are into muscle cars or real expensive classics or woody wagons any of which most of our age group can't afford. i guess it's time to try to peddle the roadster.

[700rpm]

Originally Posted by Barry B./ Ma.

Pooch, I think you hit the nail on the head. i guess it's time to try to peddle the roadster.

Yeah, them worthless roadsters. I'll give you $500 cash, just to take it off your hands.

In our area, our Model A club is bigger than it has ever been in its 40+ years. Yes, many members are over 50, but at least a third I would estimate at under 50. There comes a time (usually over 50) when we have enough time and money to pursue our hobbies, and in looking at the interest level in our club I would say that there is a whole new crew coming up. We seem to gain appreciation for old stuff as we ourselves get older, and I think that is human nature and that is what will keep the hobby alive.