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Roadster Rich · 04-07-2013, 03:51 PM

Just took the first ride after a long long time. I found it strange but my clutch does not seem to release or to slow down for a very long time. I see another thread on here about the adjustment and free play, but the only think I have done since last driving was to grease the release bearing. Is there any way that you can over do it with grease here and impact this. I have driven this car for 45 years and know it is significantly different right now. Shifting up the gears you grind even waiting 10 seconds or so. Just want to know if I could have caused some of this with excessive release bearing grease.

Patrick L. · 04-07-2013, 05:13 PM

Define what you think is excessive. Greasing that critter only requires a pump or two. But it doesn't seem to me like that would cause the problem you're having. Once in gear, does the clutch release correctly ? I'm wondering if you may have a broken arm.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 04-07-2013, 06:11 PM

Once had an oily/gunky clutch disc that chattered/shook awful on take off. With inspection cover off, used an old carbon-tetrachloride fire extinguisher & flooded inside of pressure plate area while idling & pushed clutch in & out, flooded & did the same thing over & over many times. It cleaned it out well & apparently dried the disc lining well & it worked smoothly after that. I don't know if carbon-tetrachloride is available anymore??? Bill W.

700rpm · 04-07-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Once had an oily/gunky clutch disc that chattered/shook awful on take off. With inspection cover off, used an old carbon-tetrachloride fire extinguisher & flooded inside of pressure plate area while idling & pushed clutch in & out, flooded & did the same thing over & over many times. It cleaned it out well & apparently dried the disc lining well & it worked smoothly after that. I don't know if carbon-tetrachloride is available anymore??? Bill W.

Carbon tet is still available, but for health (liver, lungs, brain, other physical damage) and environmental (mostly ozone depletion) reasons it isn't used much any more. I remember my dad using it with a lot of caution in the '50's and warning me against getting anywhere near it.

V4F · 04-07-2013, 07:46 PM

it only greases the slide , not the brg . a lil dab will do ya ..........

machine girl · 04-07-2013, 07:56 PM

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Dick Deegan · 04-07-2013, 08:43 PM

I have done exactly the same thing as Bill with brake cleaner with the same positive results.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 04-07-2013, 10:37 PM

When I first got Minerva, she had only 900 miles on a complete rebuild, but the clutch always chattered on initial take off in low gear. I "visualized" in my head?? that each chatter was just increasing the "highs" & the "lows" in the disc lining. I found that with a smooth gradual engaging of the clutch, and with NO increasing of the throttle, she would pull off from a stop in second gear nicely, with NO chatter! After driving this way for about a month, this apparently smoothed the disc lining & she never ever chattered on a low gear take off again. Also, it lessened the "labor" of shifting from low to second! (YAWN!) Bill W.

jkeesey · 04-07-2013, 11:17 PM

Back to the shifting problem, have you checked your fluid level? If the clutch is operating properly and it still takes 10 seconds to shift you my be low on fluid and cannot affect the speed of the cluster gear sufficiently.

JBill · 04-08-2013, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 700rpm

Carbon tet is still available, but for health (liver, lungs, brain, other physical damage) and environmental (mostly ozone depletion) reasons it isn't used much any more. I remember my dad using it with a lot of caution in the '50's and warning me against getting anywhere near it.

Isn't that what they use to kill bugs and butterflies??

Roadster Rich · 04-08-2013, 07:15 AM

The clutch does work. It just takes a longer time to drop off rotation (much longer) than it did a year or so ago. I did drain the transmission and refilled with the proper oil, and greased this release. I did see grease oozing out around the bearing, and that is why I wondered if this could have done something. The clutch definitely works as it does not slip at all when in gear and driving. I will drive for a while to see if it improves. Thanks for the help.

04-07-2013, 03:51 PM	#1
Roadster Rich Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia (Atlanta) Posts: 272	Release Bearing Grease Just took the first ride after a long long time. I found it strange but my clutch does not seem to release or to slow down for a very long time. I see another thread on here about the adjustment and free play, but the only think I have done since last driving was to grease the release bearing. Is there any way that you can over do it with grease here and impact this. I have driven this car for 45 years and know it is significantly different right now. Shifting up the gears you grind even waiting 10 seconds or so. Just want to know if I could have caused some of this with excessive release bearing grease.

04-07-2013, 05:13 PM	#2
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Release Bearing Grease Define what you think is excessive. Greasing that critter only requires a pump or two. But it doesn't seem to me like that would cause the problem you're having. Once in gear, does the clutch release correctly ? I'm wondering if you may have a broken arm.

04-07-2013, 06:11 PM	#3
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Release Bearing Grease Once had an oily/gunky clutch disc that chattered/shook awful on take off. With inspection cover off, used an old carbon-tetrachloride fire extinguisher & flooded inside of pressure plate area while idling & pushed clutch in & out, flooded & did the same thing over & over many times. It cleaned it out well & apparently dried the disc lining well & it worked smoothly after that. I don't know if carbon-tetrachloride is available anymore??? Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

04-07-2013, 07:46 PM	#5
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,524	Re: Release Bearing Grease it only greases the slide , not the brg . a lil dab will do ya .......... __________________ V4f

04-07-2013, 07:56 PM	#6
machine girl Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 422	Re: Release Bearing Grease Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) timkin 2065 no grease sealed

04-07-2013, 08:43 PM	#7
Dick Deegan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 527	Re: Release Bearing Grease I have done exactly the same thing as Bill with brake cleaner with the same positive results.

04-07-2013, 11:17 PM	#9
jkeesey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glenmoore Pa Posts: 1,644	Re: Release Bearing Grease Back to the shifting problem, have you checked your fluid level? If the clutch is operating properly and it still takes 10 seconds to shift you my be low on fluid and cannot affect the speed of the cluster gear sufficiently.

04-08-2013, 07:15 AM	#11
Roadster Rich Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia (Atlanta) Posts: 272	Re: Release Bearing Grease The clutch does work. It just takes a longer time to drop off rotation (much longer) than it did a year or so ago. I did drain the transmission and refilled with the proper oil, and greased this release. I did see grease oozing out around the bearing, and that is why I wondered if this could have done something. The clutch definitely works as it does not slip at all when in gear and driving. I will drive for a while to see if it improves. Thanks for the help.