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Pamodelaroadster · 04-02-2022, 10:20 PM

The number on my block is CAR9323. According to the back of Les Andrew’s book I think the engine may have been built in January 1927. The car is titled as a 1931. Can someone please enlighten me.
Thank you very much.

Bob C · 04-02-2022, 10:29 PM

That would be an April 1930 Canadian number.
https://www.fordgarage.com/pages/ABenginenumbers.htm

Pamodelaroadster · 04-02-2022, 10:41 PM

Thanks so much. Do you know if the number on the frame should read the same? I understand you can’t see it unless the body is removed. We’re only the engines made in Canada or the whole car?

ronn · 04-03-2022, 07:01 AM

Canada did not stamp the frames.........

gdmn852 · 04-03-2022, 10:17 AM

Hello, is your car a Canadian built car ? They usually have square head screws on the interior.Model A s are known not to have the same engine as when new due to the long service life most of them had , finding a “matching number “Model A is rare,I have a late 31 but it’s engine is a 1930 number. When in that era you could have gone to Sears and get a rebuilt engine,some indication how common engine changes were.

Fullraceflathead · 04-03-2022, 11:20 AM

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Nothing was built in January 1927 for the model A. the model T. was still in production then

Shelbycsx · 04-03-2022, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdmn852

Hello, is your car a Canadian built car ? They usually have square head screws on the interior.Model A s are known not to have the same engine as when new due to the long service life most of them had , finding a “matching number “Model A is rare,I have a late 31 but it’s engine is a 1930 number. When in that era you could have gone to Sears and get a rebuilt engine,some indication how common engine changes were.

I have 3 numbers matching model A's.

gdmn852 · 04-04-2022, 10:23 AM

Hello again, it’s nice to have the numbers match to original as you have,if the engine was changed, the original number was supposed to be restamped on the replacement engine but that seems to be rarely done on most of the Model A I have seen.Non matching numbers still cause some grief when bringing a car from out of state and the title no longer matches the engine and Penn dot wants a tracing of the number. In worse cases the state will issue a special vin plate to be placed on the car. A friend of mine had a 39 Lincoln Zephyr that had that , was brought in from New York a lot of paperwork on that.

04-02-2022, 10:20 PM	#1
Pamodelaroadster Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Mill Hall, PA Posts: 46	Motor number confusion? The number on my block is CAR9323. According to the back of Les Andrew’s book I think the engine may have been built in January 1927. The car is titled as a 1931. Can someone please enlighten me. Thank you very much.

04-02-2022, 10:29 PM	#2
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,806	Re: Motor number confusion? That would be an April 1930 Canadian number. https://www.fordgarage.com/pages/ABenginenumbers.htm

04-02-2022, 10:41 PM	#3
Pamodelaroadster Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Mill Hall, PA Posts: 46	Re: Motor number confusion? Thanks so much. Do you know if the number on the frame should read the same? I understand you can’t see it unless the body is removed. We’re only the engines made in Canada or the whole car?

04-03-2022, 07:01 AM	#4
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,838	Re: Motor number confusion? Canada did not stamp the frames.........

04-03-2022, 10:17 AM	#5
gdmn852 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Erie Pa Posts: 708	Re: Motor number confusion? Hello, is your car a Canadian built car ? They usually have square head screws on the interior.Model A s are known not to have the same engine as when new due to the long service life most of them had , finding a “matching number “Model A is rare,I have a late 31 but it’s engine is a 1930 number. When in that era you could have gone to Sears and get a rebuilt engine,some indication how common engine changes were.

04-03-2022, 11:20 AM	#6
Fullraceflathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Missouri Posts: 1,212	Re: Motor number confusion? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Nothing was built in January 1927 for the model A. the model T. was still in production then __________________ "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses." -Henry Ford "Primitive technology is not a design flaw" 1928 Ford Model A Roadster Pickup 1930 Gordon Smith Air Compressor 1941 Willy's Pickup 1960 Thunderbird-For Sale 1964 Buick Riviera 2x4 425 1965 Pontiac GTO, 455 Super Duty 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, V-10 Viper 1977 Charger Jet Boat,460 Ford,Jacuzzi Jet Front Engine Nostalgia Dragster,Supercharged 296 "Fullrace Flathead" Ford Engine Build up on DVD ask

04-04-2022, 10:23 AM	#8
gdmn852 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Erie Pa Posts: 708	Re: Motor number confusion? Hello again, it’s nice to have the numbers match to original as you have,if the engine was changed, the original number was supposed to be restamped on the replacement engine but that seems to be rarely done on most of the Model A I have seen.Non matching numbers still cause some grief when bringing a car from out of state and the title no longer matches the engine and Penn dot wants a tracing of the number. In worse cases the state will issue a special vin plate to be placed on the car. A friend of mine had a 39 Lincoln Zephyr that had that , was brought in from New York a lot of paperwork on that.