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Old 12-15-2024, 11:40 AM   #1
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Default Idler Gear Removal

I'm tearing down an 8ba block in preparation for a trip to the machine shop, going to see if it's good or a boat anchor. Anyhow, I need to remove the oil pump idler gear, I threaded a bolt into the gear and gave some tugs with my rather small slide hammer..... didn't budge. Just want to verify this is the correct method for removal? Thanks.
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Old 12-15-2024, 11:46 AM   #2
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Best I can remember, it should slide off the shaft using a couple of screwdrivers as levers. While you're at it, check the bushing to make sure it's not worn allowing the gear to rock back and forth on the shaft.
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Old 12-15-2024, 11:58 AM   #3
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Correction to my previous post. I seem to remember now that I had to use a larger slide hammer to remove the gear shaft. Apologize for the misinformation.
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Old 12-15-2024, 12:01 PM   #4
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Here's an earlier helpful thread about this gear.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ump+idler+gear
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Old 12-15-2024, 12:43 PM   #5
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Here's an earlier helpful thread about this gear.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ump+idler+gear

I have to thank you, and laugh at myself with you directing me to a thread of MY OWN from 2 years ago when I was facing the installation of said gear. Guess that shows the extent of my memory. Well I need to find a BIG socket or heavier slide hammer. Thanks!
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Definitely a case of "CRS" - LOL
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Definitely a case of "CRS" - LOL
Dale, is that 'Can't Remember Syndrome'?
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Close . . . it usually means "Can't Remember Shxt"
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To remove that gear I use my KR Wilson tool.
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Dale, is that 'Can't Remember Syndrome'?

Also a milder version of CRAFT Can't remember a frik'n thing
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Thanks guys, I'll have to remember those acronyms.... Wish me luck.
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To remove that gear I use my KR Wilson tool.
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Ya, I've looked all over and can't find mine.
Simple solution. Buy a new one. The one you already have will appear almost immediately
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Simple solution. Buy a new one. The one you already have will appear almost immediately
Works every time for me. I shouldn't complain at this point in my life BUTT, was under the 49 doing yearly. Needed a wrench, got out from under, went to toolbox AND WONDERED WHY I WAS THERE... Jeez
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Works every time for me. I shouldn't complain at this point in my life BUTT, was under the 49 doing yearly. Needed a wrench, got out from under, went to toolbox AND WONDERED WHY I WAS THERE... Jeez
Reminds me of my last few years working on fork lift trucks. Working on a truck at my stall with my tools directly behind me, I would turn around to get the needed tool and forget what I was after. I would stand and look into the tool cabinet trying to remember what I was doing to the truck. Many times I had to turn around and see what I was doing to determine which tool I was after. This malady was going on 20 years ago so you can only imagine what I deal with now! LOL NRTF (not really that funny)
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Old 12-17-2024, 04:43 PM   #17
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The Wilson tool is just a stout cylinder with a bolt to pull that gear. You could probably rig up something with a bar, some spacers, and a bolt to pull it. It’s just pressed in.
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Have to dig it up, but I made one using part of a Model T running board brace. Worked well.
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Old 12-17-2024, 07:40 PM   #19
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Well guys, I took this block to the machine shop for hot tank, bake and mag, and decided to "delegate" a couple additional tasks: remove the front oil gallery plug and the idler gear. I have done both before, but this time around I'm going to let someone else have the fun.
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