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Old 12-04-2014, 04:59 PM   #1
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A friend of mine mentioned to me that he learned that a new home owner in his area had a Model A engine that was left in his barn. Who doesn't want a spare? He even offers to bring to my house on his trailer. So I went to the barn with him and the engine was complete, less starter, generator, manifold and flywheel with a fair amount of Ford green paint. So we pulled it up on the trailer and now it is in my garage.

Now for the turkey! It is a very early, June 1928, #A218030 with the round flange on the crank case. My past interests have been with 1930 & 1931. Am I going to have a tough time finding a new home for this motor? Ed
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Old 12-04-2014, 05:08 PM   #2
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You're WAY too picky. Take off the round flange type oil pan and put on a later pan. But DON'T under any circumstances mess with those numbers.

Just hold it until someone comes along who needs EXACTLY your now spare engine - do him a favor and give it to him telling him you're paying it forward.

We all need more good things in our lives - and this can be your gift to someone else.

Not turkey. More like phine pheasant - or maybe quail.



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If you were closer, I would be happy to take it off your hands . I just love collecting and hoarding parts, all that I can get !!!
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Old 12-04-2014, 05:36 PM   #4
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#A218030 is June 27, 1928. Interests can change. You might get into e28 collecting someday. Who knows?

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Old 12-04-2014, 07:03 PM   #5
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A gift horse.
There is a reason you now have it.
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Old 12-04-2014, 07:20 PM   #6
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I have a May 22, 1928, Tudor with engine #A146924. I wish the engine had fallen into my lap.
Enjoy it.
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Old 12-04-2014, 07:33 PM   #7
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Only one solution to your dilemna. Simply purchase a 28 A and rebuild the engine for it. Easy fix.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:53 PM   #8
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So Christmas came early!!!
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:33 PM   #9
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Can't say I have ever regretted taking in a free motor. Payed for most, anywhere from $1 to $200 depending on the auction or circumstance. The one currently on the engine stand was free and likely one of the best I have aquired based on condition. Rod
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You're WAY too picky. Take off the round flange type oil pan and put on a later pan. But DON'T under any circumstances mess with those numbers.

Just hold it until someone comes along who needs EXACTLY your now spare engine - do him a favor and give it to him telling him you're paying it forward.

We all need more good things in our lives - and this can be your gift to someone else.

Not turkey. More like phine pheasant - or maybe quail.



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That is a kind and generous suggestion on your part Joe ! Have a great holiday, you deserve it !
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Old 12-05-2014, 11:51 AM   #11
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For those into early 28s - I am a proud (new) owner of a January 28 Tudor (S/N 13665). Some of the early original components still on it (drum lights, tools, etc..) but not the early generator. Still exploring and learning a lot from this forum. Thanks!
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:54 AM   #12
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I have afew P2's, but so far I have never had a P1. Have been in the hobbie for over 30 years and have seen about 5 of them over the years keeping in mind I only knew the differences after 15 years of collecting parts. They seem to be hard to find. Rod
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:43 PM   #13
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OK, What are P1's and P2's, Rod? That terminology is new to me, and I've been in the hobby a while too.

I picked up a very nice May 1928 block at a recent swap meet for next to nothing. The Model A guy selling it said he was selling it because he figured he'd never find an E28 to build.
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:45 PM   #14
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P1 is the early version 5 brush with the cutout on the side. P2 is the 5 brush with the cutout on top. P3 is the 3 brush like what I rebuilt for the delivery. The deliveries aprox build date is towards the end of the use for the powerhouse, but decided to use it anyway just because I like the looks of them over the long generator. More info in the JS on the differences. Rod
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So what day did the production of early 1928's End?
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Here is the earliest powerhouse with the triangle mounting bracket for the tension strap mounting. This is on Dean's A495 Phaeton, and this is the only one I've ever seen. I'm not sure what the JS calls the P1, but would think this would be it. Ford changed the location of the cutout between top and side a few times, so I'm not sure you can put any date to the location of the 5 brush powerhouse cutout mounting.

The early A's refered to as AR's are generally the ones without a seperate emergency brakes, and were mostly done by about May 1928. Lots of changes occured month by month, as seen in the SERVICE BULLETINS, so there is no definite date when the early A's came to an end, but most people consider them to be done when the seperate parking brake came into production.
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