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john hamilton 12-05-2012 07:04 PM

capri engine in model a
 

That Pinto thread was too long. A Capri engine was just like the Pinto but with more hp. I put the engine and 4-speed in one and it fit perfectly. The shifter was in just the right place. The Pinto shifter was not in a good place.

It just took some simple flat pieces bolted in for front mounts and a tube across the frame for the tranny mount. Could have easily been reversed.

kenparker 12-05-2012 08:24 PM

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Is the Capri engine a 2.0 liter or a 2.3 liter? I am installing a 2.3 in a chassi now.

john hamilton 12-05-2012 08:50 PM

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Capris were 2300 cc. I had a Model A exhaust system hooked up and it sounded like an A. To the uninitiated it looked like some type of early A conversion. Who was I to deny it?

I only did it because the car was assembled junk and the A engine wore out. The parts were all from different years and the fenders were plastic. Guess I didn't mention I put in a Jaguar XK-E running gear.

Jordan 12-05-2012 09:41 PM

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Before the police show up, I'd like to see more pictures. I have no plans of running anything besides an A engine, but I would like to see how it's done.

1oldtimer 12-05-2012 11:34 PM

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I would also like pics of the trans and install.

5window 12-05-2012 11:50 PM

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Guess I'd leave it here-it sure wouldn't fly over on the HAMB!

fordcragar 12-06-2012 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kenparker (Post 547284)
Is the Capri engine a 2.0 liter or a 2.3 liter? I am installing a 2.3 in a chassi now.

What are you using for a transmission and rearend?

kenparker 12-06-2012 09:30 AM

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Boy! Is this ever gonna stir up the Model A police. Engine and trans are mounted in the frame. Had to custom build some engine mounts and had to do some other custom engineering to make things work. The tranny is a C-3 fromm a 70's Fairmount and the Rear end is not decided yet.

PetesPonies 12-06-2012 09:47 AM

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John, the early Capris also got the 2000 engine.

PetesPonies 12-06-2012 09:49 AM

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Ken, can I PM you for some specifics of your install?

kenparker 12-06-2012 11:26 AM

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Petesponies, sure PM me anytime.

newshirt 12-06-2012 11:52 AM

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This is much more interesting than the "restoration" theme of this forum. Let's have two hamb's!

Charlie Stephens 12-06-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PetesPonies (Post 547559)
Ken, can I PM you for some specifics of your install?

Ken/Pete,

I am sure a lot of people are interested in this topic. Instead of giving the details off line I would like to suggest a thread on HAMB with a reference here to the thread.

Charlie Stephens

CarlG 12-06-2012 01:17 PM

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There's a 29 frame with a pinto engine / c4 tranny on the swap meet page right now.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91020

1oldtimer 12-06-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 547702)
There's a 29 frame with a pinto engine / c4 tranny on the swap meet page right now.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91020

It's really a 2.3, but still would work.

CarlG 12-06-2012 04:22 PM

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Seller's description, not mine. :)

1oldtimer 12-07-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 547822)
Seller's description, not mine. :)

Sorry Carl, I was correcting the ad not you.


Mine came with an early Pinto 2.0 in it. Too stock for the HAMB and not stock enough for the Barn.........:).

PetesPonies 12-07-2012 09:27 PM

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2.3 can be considered a Pinto engine as well. More 2.3s made it into Pintos than 2000s did.

James Rogers 12-07-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PetesPonies (Post 548609)
2.3 can be considered a Pinto engine as well. More 2.3s made it into Pintos than 2000s did.

The 2.3 LL Mazda was the most prolific Ford engine used in any car or truck. This engine was used in the same basic design from 1974 till 1997 and in HP ratings from 90 to 205 the difference being carburation and cam design. Other improvements were to the ignition system and compression. If you want a hoss to use in a hot rod A, get a turbo charged intercooled engine from an 84-86 Mustang SVO rated at 205 HP with a 5 speed. Lots of horses from a little 140 CI four cylinder.

I am putting the head on my Ranger tomorrow because of a burnt valve. I got it for 500 and a replacement head and gaskets cost 400. Pretty good truck for 900$. This is the 8 valve 8 plug model introduced in 1988 and ended in 1997. Easy motor to work on and keep in tune. I checked the cylinder bores and can still see some cross hatch with 206000 miles on the odo.

Glenn C. 12-07-2012 10:55 PM

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When your on a tour, who wants to look under the hood anyway? It's your A, build it, and drive it to enjoy.


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