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TagMan 03-23-2012 04:03 PM

Front Spring Center Bolt
 

I received a repro front spring center bolt from a vendor and the square head is only 7/32" height (original is 5/16"), the bolt diameter is .024" smaller than O.E. and the nut is only thick enough (.165") for about 3 threads of engagement. :eek:

Does anyone make a center bolt in the correct dimensions?

Vic Piano 03-23-2012 04:14 PM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

Try Roy Naciwitz (spelling) I'm sure someone on the forum will have his contact information.

TagMan 03-23-2012 06:15 PM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

Thanks, Vic. I'll try to find his contact info.

TJ 03-23-2012 07:47 PM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

Try; www.fordbolts.com.

TagMan 03-23-2012 09:01 PM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

TJ, thanks very much. Sounds like he's got the correct stuff. Hard to believe what some vendors are passing off as reproduction parts.

1931 flamingo 03-23-2012 10:56 PM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

Tagman: And your vendor was???? Let the rest of us know so we don't make a mistake.
Paul in CT

34pickup 03-24-2012 09:24 AM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo (Post 392410)
Tagman: And your vendor was???? Let the rest of us know so we don't make a mistake.
Paul in CT

Yeah, I would like to know too. It could save us money. If we quit buying crap that we can't use maybe they will get the message. It couldn't cost more to have made the bolt the proper dimensions.

TagMan 03-24-2012 10:34 AM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

I got, what appears to me to be, the incorrect bolt from MAC's. It was only $1.50 which should have warned me. I'd gladly pay $5.00 for the correct one. Why peddle crap that isn't correct?

TagMan 10-09-2012 08:16 AM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt - Follow Up
 

Just a follow up to my original post.

Maybe this is a common 'fix', but I'm new to early Fords, so maybe I'm 'reinventing the wheel' here, but in any case, I thought I'd share:

I bought another center bolt from Ray Nacewicz. My first dealings with him and he was a pleasure to work with. He forwarned me that the center bolt he sells does not have the stock "high head". I ordered several items and included the center bolt.

When I installed the bolt, the head would not go through the cross member like it should, so I considered several options. I decided to try drilling out the threads of a like-sized square nut, so it could be pressed onto the shaft of the screw.

I reassembled the center bolt and installed the spring pack. The head of the bolt now stands a bit above the cross member, like the original did, and the added spacer nut doesn't show.

Here's a few pics. (Note: I believe the clamping U-bolts should not be plated, but this is my personnal prefference.)

The added nut spacer:
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/q...terBolt002.jpg

As assembled:
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/q...terBolt003.jpg
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/q...terBolt004.jpg

Lawson Cox 10-09-2012 10:14 AM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

Neat idea.

Pete 10-09-2012 01:02 PM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

I know restrorers need to have an authentic looking center bolt so you are stuck with Chinese junk if you buy a new one unless you have a machine shop and make one from 4340 bar stock.
I have seen way too many broken center bolts over the years so not being into show car restorations, I use grade 9 socket head bolts and make the hole in the cross member fit the bolt head. Grade 9's are 180 ksi tensile and I doubt one would ever break unless on purpose.

Ken/Alabama 10-09-2012 03:04 PM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

One thing I don't understand is why the front bolt is 5/16 and the rear is 3/8 dia

Pete 10-09-2012 03:12 PM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

The front is smaller so doesn't need as big a bolt.

TagMan 10-09-2012 04:01 PM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

After the spring is installed, I doubt the center bolt really does much, considering the hefty clamps & U-bolts securing the spring pack to the cross member. I believe the real purpose for the center bolt is to hold the spring pack together and center it in the cross member during assembly.

Just my 2¢

19Fordy 10-09-2012 05:00 PM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Post 514134)
I know restrorers need to have an authentic looking center bolt so you are stuck with Chinese junk if you buy a new one unless you have a machine shop and make one from 4340 bar stock.
I have seen way too many broken center bolts over the years so not being into show car restorations, I use grade 9 socket head bolts and make the hole in the cross member fit the bolt head. Grade 9's are 180 ksi tensile and I doubt one would ever break unless on purpose.

Actually, I think Henry used lots of fasteners made of low carbon (grade 5) steel so that they would stretch and bend rather than just "snap" and break off upon impact. It would be interesting to know the type of steel those OEM bolts are made of.

TagMan 10-09-2012 06:13 PM

Re: Front Spring Center Bolt
 

Grade 8 (or 9) bolts will hold long after grade 5 bolts (of the same size) stretch and snap or shear. Look up the tensile strength & shear strength of bolts. Grade 8 are not more brittle than grade 5 bolts.


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