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Planojc 09-30-2025 10:42 AM

Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

New coil, Distributor and Carb from Charlie NY, new plugs and plug wires on a 59AB. All cylinders have good compression at about 110. Number one and two cylinders show no change when plugs are shorted to ground. Both are getting hot spark to the plugs and through the plugs to the electrode. It acts like no fuel is making its way to the intake valves on those two cylinders. The valves on both cylinders are clean and are opening and closing like they should as seen with a borescope camera. Short of removing the intake, does anyone have any suggestions? I'm running out of options

marko39 09-30-2025 10:49 AM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

is exhaust manifold cold where 1 &2 exhaust?

Planojc 09-30-2025 11:03 AM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

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Originally Posted by marko39 (Post 2415213)
is exhaust manifold cold where 1 &2 exhaust?

Yes and the spark plugs on one and two are much cooler than the rest.

glennpm 09-30-2025 11:08 AM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

Are the #1 and #2 plugs wet or dry?
You say you have spark, however check your cap and plug wiring order just to verify.
Any sign of mice perhaps blocking within the intake?

Planojc 09-30-2025 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by glennpm (Post 2415222)
Are the #1 and #2 plugs wet or dry?
You say you have spark, however check your cap and plug wiring order just to verify.
Any sign of mice perhaps blocking within the intake?

Plug wiring order is correct, easy to tell since i'm using a crab distributor. I ran a borescope down the intake but with the 90 degree turn, I could not get far enough down to see any blockage. I'm afraid that I will have to pull the intake to do a complete inspection.

kurt v 09-30-2025 12:16 PM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

clean the main jets, may have picked up some junk, know carb is good but may have broke some stuff loose when changing fuel line.

glennpm 09-30-2025 01:24 PM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

Plugs wet or dry?

Planojc 09-30-2025 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by glennpm (Post 2415243)
Plugs wet or dry?

Plugs are dry.

glennpm 09-30-2025 01:48 PM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

Yeah, seems like you’ve may have intake blockage.

Ggmac 09-30-2025 03:22 PM

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Do you have a vacuum gauge? If so connect it and report vacuum reading , if needles is steady or bouncing .

Planojc 09-30-2025 03:28 PM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

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Originally Posted by Ggmac (Post 2415267)
Do you have a vacuum gauge? If so connect it and report vacuum reading , if needles is steady or bouncing .

It’s bouncing between 19 and 20, car shakes and definitely running on just 6 cylinders. Number one and two cylinders are not getting fuel. Tried another carburetor and got same results. I guess it’s time to pull the intake and see if there is blockage.

Mart 09-30-2025 04:11 PM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

Pull the plugs and look for sticking valves. Easy to do.

Or do a compression test.

Kurt in NJ 09-30-2025 04:45 PM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

pour some water on the manifold near the gasket and see if it gets sucked in

Ggmac 09-30-2025 05:19 PM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

Is there a vacuum fitting between those cylinders on the intake for the distributor brake or windshield wiper ?

Planojc 09-30-2025 06:03 PM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart (Post 2415276)
Pull the plugs and look for sticking valves. Easy to do.

Or do a compression test.

Mart the compression is around 110 on each cylinder and using a bore scope camera, both valves are opening and closing.

Flathead Fever 09-30-2025 06:16 PM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

I know that you said the firing order is correct, but these engines cylinders are numbered differently than most V8s.

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...48_221-239.htm

I thought about your engine, and I don't see how the two cylinders next to each other are not firing with good compression and spark, unless the firing order is mixed up. Maybe the intake is plugged which is unlikely, but anything is possible. I have a bunch of flathead cores out in the garage and some of them have mouse nests in the intakes. You could pull the number one and two plugs and crank the engine to where the intakes are open and blow air in them and see if it comes up and out the intake or even out the next-door cylinder. Then try the exhaust valves when they are open and see if it comes out the exhaust. I'm just grabbing at straws???

flatford8 09-30-2025 06:29 PM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

Inspect the cap for cracks, and check rotor to cap gaps…..Get the area where you have it parked as dark as you can and see if you have a cross-fire leak between wire towers or wires………Mark

big deuce 09-30-2025 07:51 PM

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I had a cracked cap on a sbc, between #5 and #7, which fire one after the other. The crack was lined with carbon dust and trying to fire both cylinders at the same time. Like mentioned, look at cap or swap one out.

hueyhoolihan 09-30-2025 09:52 PM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

if compression is good, intake port obstruction would, i think, be unlikely.

in any event, i'd likely be removing the intake manifold...

69a 10-01-2025 01:03 AM

Re: Two dead cylinders on a 59ab
 

Make 100% sure your plug leads are on the correct cylinder. I had this happen with #7 & #8. Same symptoms. Cold plugs and exhaust. If you don't have a timing mark on your pulley, you can get a rough idea by connecting a timing light to #6 and turn the engine over by hand until the light flashes. (#1 & #6 fire 360 crankshaft degrees apart) Put a mark on the crank pulley and a corresponding one on the timing cover. Now connect the timing light to #1 & it should flash at approximately the same position. If it flashes 90 degrees to the left, you have #1 & #2 mixed up.
Or a severe vacuum leak between #1 & #2.


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