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[email protected] 02-28-2023 09:04 AM

Model a head on model b engine
 

Will a model a head fit on a model B engine

emf 02-28-2023 09:41 AM

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yes, use the correct head gasket.

MAG 02-28-2023 10:15 AM

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Don't forget to plug the "steam" holes.

Synchro909 02-28-2023 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MAG (Post 2207621)
Don't forget to plug the "steam" holes.

I have had an A head on a B engine for over a decade without plugging those holes. I was told I should but couldn't see the point. Maybe I did the wrong thing but it has been fine. What reasons were given to you? (Not being confrontational)

Bob C 02-28-2023 05:47 PM

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If you use an A head gasket with a B head or block it may not adequately cover the holes.

31a 02-28-2023 06:59 PM

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i have some B heads if you want one also B water pumps

Joe K 03-01-2023 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909 (Post 2207723)
I have had an A head on a B engine for over a decade without plugging those holes. I was told I should but couldn't see the point. Maybe I did the wrong thing but it has been fine. What reasons were given to you? (Not being confrontational)

I think its a matter of the "distance" between the hole and the nearest "free edge" of the gasket. Everywhere else around the head the distance is "standard" and (should but commonly doesn't) have the "bound edge" of the copper cover to add to the gasket compression.

The "commonly doesn't" would be the "aftermarket" modern gaskets. For many high compression heads these are the recommended gaskets.

I tend to agree though. Not necessary to plug the holes if you use a quality gasket.

The literature for the original Gordon-Smith compressor heads - based on a Model B head at least the part on cylinders 1 and 4 - don't mention the holes or their plugging. But that is a "different" and perhaps even more challenging application.


Joe K

MAG 03-01-2023 09:55 AM

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Agree with posts 5 &7. Had a couple in my shop that leaked using Best Copper gaskets. Plugging the holes stopped the leaks. Agree, it is not necessary to plug the holes unless the gasket leaks. (Smile)

Bob Bidonde 03-01-2023 12:58 PM

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Jim Brierley 03-01-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob C (Post 2207724)
If you use an A head gasket with a B head or block it may not adequately cover the holes.

The 4 holes down the center-line of the block re the ones that should be plugged. They need to be plugged flush with the block surface to support the gasket.

the cooch 03-02-2023 10:57 AM

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High compression Model A head allows modern, “leakless” A water pump that is cheaper and easier to get than reworking or buying a B motor pump. Not a huge difference but keeping the B head does add that factor. Just went through it….-Chris in Boulder

Leoneidas 08-10-2024 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 31a (Post 2207729)
i have some B heads if you want one also B water pumps


Do you still have this available? I just removed my head due to some overheating issues to find my block filled with stop leak from a precious owner. Would like to upgrade while I'm at this stage and looking to assemble asap.

Please let me know.

Thank you in advance.

rackops 08-11-2024 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Leoneidas (Post 2329996)
Do you still have this available? I just removed my head due to some overheating issues to find my block filled with stop leak from a precious owner. Would like to upgrade while I'm at this stage and looking to assemble asap.

Please let me know.

Thank you in advance.

If you can't get one from the previous poster, I have several non-restored B heads I'd like to get rid of.

I have a diamond B block and plan on replacing the B head with an A head for looks, sometime in September. All of my B water pumps are spoken for (most are already on their way to Australia) but I will also clear out my stash of B heads as well.


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