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gtdohn 06-18-2019 07:56 PM

steering box rebuild
 

How hard is it to rebuild a steering box in a 1948 f1? Does it have to be removed to do so?
Does anyone have a good one they would let go?

JSeery 06-18-2019 08:26 PM

Re: steering box rebuild
 

How difficult it is to rebuild depends on what parts require replacement. If the worm gear needs to be replaced it is much more involved that if it just requires bearings and gaskets. I believe VanPlet's site has a section on steering box rebuild. It would be very difficult to attempt replace the upper bearing.

Lawrie 06-18-2019 09:10 PM

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I have just done one on our 33, a bit of machining involved if you replace the bushes, but for sure not an in car job.
Lawrie

gtdohn 06-18-2019 09:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawrie (Post 1769035)
I have just done one on our 33, a bit of machining involved if you replace the bushes, but for sure not an in car job.
Lawrie

That's what I was afraid of. Would it make sense to attempt an adjustment first?

JSeery 06-18-2019 10:16 PM

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If you follow the correct procedures. They are listed in the service manuals, but basically it involves adjusting the shims on the end plate first.

john in illinois 06-19-2019 07:29 AM

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JSeery 06-19-2019 10:18 AM

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1 Attachment(s)
VanPelt data: http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...tmt1937-48.htm

And rebuild article.

19Fordy 06-19-2019 10:33 AM

Re: steering box rebuild
 

Just curious. Not trying to hijack this thread.
QUESTION: Can the 1948 ford steering box be used in a 1940 Ford?
Are parts or entire box interchangeable?
The reason I ask is because I have a 1947 Ford coupe steering column and box that I am saving for future use in my 40 Ford, if needed. Thanks.

Krylon32 06-19-2019 10:37 AM

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Contact NealinCA on here. He is one of the best steering box specialists in the business.

flatford8 06-19-2019 11:55 AM

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What’s the reason you think it needs a rebuild?....Mark

gtdohn 06-19-2019 03:28 PM

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Just because it has so much play in it. Seems like 3-4 inches both ways.

Ggmac 06-19-2019 03:35 PM

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Have you narrowed it down to the box and not a combination of tie rod ends , kingpins , and wheel bearings ?

1948F-1Pickup 06-19-2019 08:30 PM

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^ That's a good (and valid) question.

I just did mine in the '48. It was not too bad, but I've done a bunch of Mustang boxes at a place that used to blueprint them...... so it wasn't too intense a job.
Sectors and worms are about an act of congress to get, unless you go repo parts. The rest of the parts are a pretty straightforward acquisition.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=264082

gtdohn.... if you need help, ask. I work at a bearing manufacturer here in the US as a sales engineer and have considerable background on the subject.

gtdohn 06-19-2019 10:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1948F-1Pickup (Post 1769398)
^ That's a good (and valid) question.

I just did mine in the '48. It was not too bad, but I've done a bunch of Mustang boxes at a place that used to blueprint them...... so it wasn't too intense a job.
Sectors and worms are about an act of congress to get, unless you go repo parts. The rest of the parts are a pretty straightforward acquisition.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=264082

gtdohn.... if you need help, ask. I work at a bearing manufacturer here in the US as a sales engineer and have considerable background on the subject.

Thank you very much for that. I just might reach out to you. I have never done anything like it before, but I'm not afraid to try things.
I appreciate it.

FlatheadTed 06-20-2019 02:52 AM

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Fordy
I believe they are the same box, 18 to one shaft on the 40 is 49" not sure on the 47,you could cut the shaft down though ,
Quote:

Originally Posted by 19Fordy (Post 1769198)
Just curious. Not trying to hijack this thread.
QUESTION: Can the 1948 ford steering box be used in a 1940 Ford?
Are parts or entire box interchangeable?
The reason I ask is because I have a 1947 Ford coupe steering column and box that I am saving for future use in my 40 Ford, if needed. Thanks.


Rayfry 06-20-2019 09:05 AM

Re: steering box rebuild
 

Check out Rockauto. They will rebuild your own steering box for under $300.00. You send in yours and they rebuild it and return it. the best price around but you have to wait for them to return it. Good in the winter when your not using your car that much.

russcc 06-20-2019 06:38 PM

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I have rebuilt a couple F1's, and fortunately the worm and sector shafts were good. As said, the bushings, bearings and seals are all readily available. Fred Wilner had them. One box is in the '29 roadster hot rod on 32 rails, so I swapped a '41 p/up shaft into it to use the '40 wheel tapered/keyed mount. I shortened the shaft to position the wheel in the '29 by pressing off the worm, cut the shaft and milled a new woodruff key slot in on the Bridgeport with a woodruff key cutter. Pressing the worm off requires a press, and heat. Pressing it on is tougher because with end of the shaft supported on the floor and pressing the worm on it wants lift the press off the floor unless it lagged down. Freezing the shaft and heating the worm eases the process. The actual rebuild is simple.


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