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Terry, NJ 04-16-2017 04:05 PM

Ignition woes (Again) Burnt Coil?
 

So I was finishing up the transmission job, took it for a short ride and it performed perfectly. I guess I solved that jumping out of 3rd gear Problem. I parked it in the driveway.Came out from cleaning the garage to put it away, NO START. What the hell is this, No spark! I was just down the road with this about six months ago, thought I had it fixed once and for all! I guess not! So I get the meter and check the coil. Now as I understand it, I should have voltage on both sides of the coil. I have voltage on one side only. Did I burn the coil?
Terry

Mitch//pa 04-16-2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry, NJ (Post 1459132)
So I was finishing up the transmission job, took it for a short ride and it performed perfectly. I guess I solved that jumping out of 3rd gear Problem. I parked it in the driveway.Came out from cleaning the garage to put it away, NO START. What the hell is this, No spark! I was just down the road with this about six months ago, thought I had it fixed once and for all! I guess not! So I get the meter and check the coil. Now as I understand it, I should have voltage on both sides of the coil. I have voltage on one side only. Did I burn the coil?
Terry

Youll only have voltage on one side of the coil if the points are closed with the key on.
Key off you will have voltage at both sides of the coil or key on and the points open

Tom Endy 04-16-2017 04:51 PM

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Terry, NJ 04-16-2017 06:34 PM

Re: Ignition woes (Again) Burnt Coil?
 

Tom, I printed out your punch list of problems, went outside to where my coupe lay dead in it's tracks, checked both sides of the coil-OK. Next I took the cap off the distributor, put paper between the points and the arm was hot (6V). So just for the hell of it, I tried starting it again. It made one turn of the starter and fired off perfectly. So I seem to have a "won't start when hot", problem. I never had this before, what is the usual cause of these? I seem to recall it being a coil problem. T.I.A.
Terry

Mitch//pa 04-16-2017 06:38 PM

Re: Ignition woes (Again) Burnt Coil?
 

You need to check things when the issue is happening.

Dick Steinkamp 04-16-2017 07:11 PM

Re: Ignition woes (Again) Burnt Coil?
 

As an aside, I have owned over 40 vintage collector cars...from the mid 60s to the 30s. All had point type distributors and coils. In addition, I'm an old guy. For many years my daily drivers had point type ignitions and coils. I currently own 3 vehicles with point type ignitions and coils.

I've never had a coil or condenser fail. Never. I know it's possible, but it seems that every Model A problem here is blamed on the coil or condenser (or, of course, crap gas ;)) .

I sure wish I had the coil and condenser concession here. I'm sure there are a whole bunch of coils and condensers that have been replaced prior to the owner doing actual trouble shooting and correcting the actual problem.

Terry, NJ 04-17-2017 06:01 AM

Re: Ignition woes (Again) Burnt Coil?
 

Dick, My experience is similar. I'm 72 and until recently, all my cars were point and coils too.
But, I have three mod. A condensers that are bad. How do I know? I have a condenser tester and they were the cause of my points not firing at sometime in the past. I'm saving them for who the heck knows why. Six months ago, I had similar problems and I chased it to a shorted plate. That was what is so frustrating, Is this car cursed? Furthermore, in my dotage, I can't get a mental handle on how the mod.A Ignition system works that will stay with me longer than ten minutes, maybe fifteen. Problems for me seem to evolve. sometime today, I will get the engine hot again just to see what happens. Wish me luck!
Terry

Big hammer 04-17-2017 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry, NJ (Post 1459381)
Dick, My experience is similar. I'm 72 and until recently, all my cars were point and coils too.
But, I have three mod. A condensers that are bad. How do I know? I have a condenser tester and they were the cause of my points not firing at sometime in the past. I'm saving them for who the heck knows why. Six months ago, I had similar problems and I chased it to a shorted plate. That was what is so frustrating, Is this car cursed? Furthermore, in my dotage, I can't get a mental handle on how the mod.A Ignition system works that will stay with me longer than ten minutes, maybe fifteen. Problems for me seem to evolve. sometime today, I will get the engine hot again just to see what happens. Wish me luck!
Terry

Good luck Terry :-)

Dick Steinkamp 04-17-2017 10:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry, NJ (Post 1459381)
Problems for me seem to evolve. sometime today, I will get the engine hot again just to see what happens. Wish me luck!
Terry

Trouble shooting can be frustrating...but it feels so good when you nail the problem. :D

Good luck!

Chuck Sea/Tac 04-17-2017 10:52 AM

Re: Ignition woes (Again) Burnt Coil?
 

I had an intermittent "open" the other day, turned out to be weak spring pressure not pushing the movable points arm end against the power post.

gweilbaker 04-17-2017 11:06 AM

Re: Ignition woes (Again) Burnt Coil?
 

I had an armored cable go wonky. Worked great, then out of the blue nothing, then it work again. Drove me nuts for a while.

Terry, NJ 04-17-2017 12:15 PM

Re: Ignition woes (Again) Burnt Coil?
 

I hope not! I bought the top of the line ignition switch ($ 55. IIRC) on Mitch's recommendation, during a previous bout with this thing. (That was before the last go around with the shorted dist. plate)
Terry



Quote:

Originally Posted by gweilbaker (Post 1459507)
I had an armored cable go wonky. Worked great, then out of the blue nothing, then it work again. Drove me nuts for a while.



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