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v8fordman 03-26-2017 08:30 PM

Locking Spare Identity
 

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Can anyone help me identity what this is or what it fits?

160B 03-26-2017 08:34 PM

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Spare tire lock for Model A Ford. Accessory item, two different manufacturers.

v8fordman 03-26-2017 09:08 PM

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Is there a way to identify who made it? Does anyone know who could make a key for it? I would be interested in putting it on my car since I found it at my dad's house after he passed away.

Brian SATX 03-26-2017 09:32 PM

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Look on the band itself and the lock. It should have a name. Fox was one and I cannot remember the other.
Edit- Oaks is the other company
Any good locksmith can make a key for you.

You will need the special lug nut for it. Hopefully that is with it.
A-13805AR is for 21 inch wheels
A-13508-C is for 19

Mike V. Florida 03-27-2017 12:23 AM

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It appears to be a 1930 unit.

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Originally Posted by Brian SATX (Post 1448817)
You will need the special lug nut for it. Hopefully that is with it.

Bratton's part number 25580

This is from the Restoration Guidelines (a book every owner should have),

v8fordman 03-29-2017 04:50 PM

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Found out this one is a Fox. Still would like to know where I can get a key made if anyone has a suggestion.

SeaSlugs 03-29-2017 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by v8fordman (Post 1450136)
Found out this one is a Fox. Still would like to know where I can get a key made if anyone has a suggestion.

Go to a lock smith - bring it with you and see what they say. Shouldnt be that hard to get a key made if they truley are a locksmith and not just a key cutter.

Doug Clayton 03-29-2017 08:47 PM

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Most lock cylinders are frozen due to the pot metal swelling. Before, going to far, try turning (in both directions) the lock cylinder with a small screwdriver. Don't twist very hard as it will break. If you get slight movement a locksmith can make a key. If no movement then a pin on the side of the lock must be removed and the lock cylinder and retaining sleeve taken out. Then it MAYBE repaired. Lock cylinders are out there but difficult to find.
What is the part number on the strap? These are marked with the part number A-18305 with or without a suffix. Suffixes include A, A1, A2, B, C, D and E. This important if you want one to fit your car.

barnstuf 03-29-2017 08:48 PM

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The correct Ford part numbers are 28-29 A18305-AR and 30-31 A-18305-C and it has not been stated, although obvious to most, that it is for the rear mounted spare only.

Mike V. Florida 03-31-2017 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug Clayton (Post 1450234)
Most lock cylinders are frozen due to the pot metal swelling. Before, going to far, try turning (in both directions) the lock cylinder with a small screwdriver. Don't twist very hard as it will break..

DO NOT USE WD40 to loosen it.

Chris Haynes 03-31-2017 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida (Post 1450748)
DO NOT USE WD40 to loosen it.

Why not? The WD40 can always be washed out. With that being said I would soak it in Kroil for a couple days.

SeaSlugs 03-31-2017 06:55 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1427486

read and specifically the chart in freeing things up Chris.

WD-40 is really bad for locks as it doesnt penetrate like a legit penetrating oil should, leaves a sticky residue after a while, and gums up locks something fierce.

I would do the atf and acetone mix in a small cup and let it soak for a few days. (acetone eats alot of plastics and especially foam so put it in something acetone proof)

BILL WILLIAMSON 03-31-2017 07:16 PM

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Minerva came with a band lock, but it left an UGLY crease in the Firestone Deluxe 19" tires.
Bill W.

v8fordman 03-31-2017 08:31 PM

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Cleaned the back side today and it is a A-18305-C. Has anyone ever used Gibbs Brand to loosen parts like this? I may try the ATF/Acetone or the Gibbs.

There is no locksmith around here that I would trust, so if anyone has a suggestion, I would send it to them.

Tom Wesenberg 03-31-2017 08:47 PM

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I've used Gibbs with pretty good luck. I've also used Kroil, as it's sold 5 miles down the road, but I can't find Gibbs for the past several years. I have a Maytag soaking with ATF/Acetone, but haven't tried it for a long time.

ken will 04-01-2017 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by v8fordman (Post 1451111)
Cleaned the back side today and it is a A-18305-C. Has anyone ever used Gibbs Brand to loosen parts like this? I may try the ATF/Acetone or the Gibbs.

There is no locksmith around here that I would trust, so if anyone has a suggestion, I would send it to them.

Your local Police station might be able to suggest a locksmith.

Mike V. Florida 04-01-2017 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Haynes (Post 1451054)
Why not?

Do a search on Pot metal and WD40, there are too many stories about the metal failing to take a chance when there are so many other choices.


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