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jwilliams81 02-24-2017 10:14 AM

Non-removal leaf spring lubricant?
 

I wanted to ask what you guys would do to lube the springs without removing them from the car. I just got her running and I would like to be able to drive her for the summer before really tearing into the springs and removing them.
So this would be a temporary solution.

I was thinking I could unload each side at a time and either spray Slip-plate, or some type of PTFE Dry Teflon Lubricant on and in between the leaves.
Which would be better?

I have been spraying them with PB blaster to get them moving and that worked really well.

Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks

eagle 02-24-2017 10:20 AM

Re: Non-removal leaf spring lubricant?
 

They make a spring greaser that wedges/clamps between the leaves, then uses a grease gun to force grease in. Haven't used one myself.
Here is a greaser on ebay right now, different type though...http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tomahawk-Mfg...YAAOSwr~lYq5HM

jwilliams81 02-24-2017 10:56 AM

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Thanks Eagle,
I have seen those, but I didn't want to spend that much on one yet.

Mitch//pa 02-24-2017 11:06 AM

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Jack up the car and support by the frame so the suspension unloads.

Take a tapered chisel or such and spread open each leaf to lubricate...

Wear gooogles

Removing the spring clamps may help

katy 02-24-2017 12:06 PM

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This works to spread the leaves:

Tom Wesenberg 02-24-2017 12:35 PM

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My 29 Tudor was bone dry and had the typical red rust showing on the springs edges. It rode like a lumber wagon. Just squirting oil all over the springs made a world of difference.

I see restored and nice original cars at the meets with dry springs and rust showing, and can only shake my head and wonder.

Kurt in NJ 02-24-2017 12:49 PM

Re: Non-removal leaf spring lubricant?
 

There is a lube point in the hand crank bearing after some time in 29 that helps lube the front spring--- while I had the oil can I squirted the springs --- front and back , made a mess, then after 20 miles I had to tighten the shock adjustment some to stop the bounce, made the ride better too

Chris H 02-24-2017 01:31 PM

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I unloaded my springs, as Mitch suggested, but sprayed mine with a graphite lube that I got from my local NAPA store. Admittedly, not as good as grease, but sure stopped the squeaking and red rust. At least for now. I am about due for a reapplication too. I think they have both a liquid and a dry product in a spray can. I think I used both, thinking the liquid would penetrate better and carry some of the dry in with it.

Mitch//pa 02-24-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt in NJ (Post 1433956)
There is a lube point in the hand crank bearing after some time in 29 that helps lube the front spring--- while I had the oil can I squirted the springs --- front and back , made a mess, then after 20 miles I had to tighten the shock adjustment some to stop the bounce, made the ride better too

I think that would lube the saddle contact point more then the actual leave separation....

Most dont know about that hole

jwilliams81 02-24-2017 01:44 PM

Re: Non-removal leaf spring lubricant?
 

Thanks guys. I guess I thought that if I unloaded the springs, without taking them off the car, and not using a spring spreader I could work in some type of lube.

What would be the best type of lube to actually use in that instance?

Y-Blockhead 02-24-2017 02:08 PM

Re: Non-removal leaf spring lubricant?
 

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Originally Posted by jwilliams81 (Post 1433881)
I have been spraying them with PB blaster to get them moving and that worked really well.

Have you tried PB Blaster with Graphite? Spread them apart and spray. After the carrier fluid drys it leaves a graphite coating on your springs. Be carful of overspray, it's hard to remove after it drys (especially on painted surfaces).

After I lubed mine with the graphite I greased them and installed spring covers to keep water and dirt off of the leaves. The covers also have a pad that you apply grease/oil to.

Below is a picture of a tool I made out of some round stock for lubing leaf springs.

Kurt in NJ 02-24-2017 02:14 PM

Re: Non-removal leaf spring lubricant?
 

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa (Post 1433990)
I think that would lube the saddle contact point more then the actual leave separation....

Most dont know about that hole

I just oiled that first over several drives and watched the oil spread down the leaves--- I did seal around the hole to the frame when putting on the crank bearing so all the oil went down to the spring

This is also the same time I realize d that a good squirt of oil in the dist oiler oiled the top bushing

Tom Wesenberg 02-24-2017 09:32 PM

Re: Non-removal leaf spring lubricant?
 

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Originally Posted by jwilliams81 (Post 1433994)
Thanks guys. I guess I thought that if I unloaded the springs, without taking them off the car, and not using a spring spreader I could work in some type of lube.

What would be the best type of lube to actually use in that instance?

Oil will seep in and spread to do a great job. Use an oil can to squirt, or use a 1/2" or 1" wide paint brush dipped in drain oil. Drain oil will work as well as new oil. Do it in the grass or dirt so you don't have drops on your driveway.

Mike V. Florida 02-24-2017 11:51 PM

Re: Non-removal leaf spring lubricant?
 

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Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead (Post 1434010)


Below is a picture of a tool I made out of some round stock for lubing leaf springs.

I like that.

Synchro909 02-25-2017 03:43 AM

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I've often seen people suggest here that a seized nut or bolt can be freed with a mix of ATF and acetone. Would that not work on the springs?

Dollar Bill 02-25-2017 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909 (Post 1434320)
I've often seen people suggest here that a seized nut or bolt can be freed with a mix of ATF and acetone. Would that not work on the springs?

It will work to get the springs moving and help with running rust but long term, I think ATF is too thin to provide much lubrication.

Kurt in NJ 02-25-2017 08:45 AM

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Atf will work, in 1936 Ford put fittings on the centerbolt for spring lube, the spec for spring lube was somethiimg like 77% ice machine oil, the balance talc with a touch of ground asbestos, ice machine oil is about the weight of ATF, talc is a dry lube/ polishing media used in some slip plate products

If you don't have properly working shocke leave your springs dry---the dry springs dampen movement in the place of shocks

old31 02-25-2017 09:34 AM

Re: Non-removal leaf spring lubricant?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead (Post 1434010)
Have you tried PB Blaster with Graphite? Spread them apart and spray. After the carrier fluid drys it leaves a graphite coating on your springs. Be carful of overspray, it's hard to remove after it drys (especially on painted surfaces).

After I lubed mine with the graphite I greased them and installed spring covers to keep water and dirt off of the leaves. The covers also have a pad that you apply grease/oil to.

Below is a picture of a tool I made out of some round stock for lubing leaf springs.

Very clever and well done. Does the entire tube fill up with grease before it needs to squirts out?

Y-Blockhead 02-25-2017 11:01 AM

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Thanks old31. The 'Tube" is solid. The hole for the grease is only from the zerk fitting to the outlet.

I would like to take "credit" for the design but I copied it from one I seen on epay. I see them occasionally, usually from England.

Y-Blockhead 02-25-2017 11:05 AM

Re: Non-removal leaf spring lubricant?
 

Here is one on epay now. I'm to cheap too buy one so I made my own... :p:p

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-LEAF-SP...8AAOSwB4NWyhG7


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