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Mr. Will 03-21-2014 03:56 PM

1935 Ford Juice Brakes
 

I would like to convert my 35' coupe to juice brakes and wondered if anyone made a set of pre bent brake lines? Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks Dan

Willit Stop 03-21-2014 04:03 PM

Re: 1935 Ford Juice Brakes
 

Dan. Have you thought of installing energizers? They're about $56 and work just as well as hydraulics.

Straightpipes 03-21-2014 04:11 PM

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WILL and WILLIT..... Are you guys related????

mfagan 03-21-2014 04:17 PM

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Try Richard at the Early V-8 garage,
(626) 338-2282. He furnished everything we
needed for our 34 and 36 5 window coupes.
Fit like they came from factory!!

Mr. Will 03-21-2014 04:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willit Stop (Post 845024)
Dan. Have you thought of installing energizers? They're about $56 and work just as well as hydraulics.

I have not heard of the energizers.

Mr. Will 03-21-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Straightpipes (Post 845032)
WILL and WILLIT..... Are you guys related????

No no relation. My dogs name is Willapa Willy so we call him Mr. Will

Mr. Will 03-21-2014 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mfagan (Post 845038)
Try Richard at the Early V-8 garage,
(626) 338-2282. He furnished everything we
needed for our 34 and 36 5 window coupes.
Fit like they came from factory!!

I plan on buying Richards master cylinder mouting bracket but I thought his price for brake lines was bit high at 395.00. I can make my own but thought if I could buy a pre bent set reasonable I would go that route and be done with it.

Willit Stop 03-21-2014 04:42 PM

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C&G Early Ford Parts sells the energizers(floaters).Part#48-2043. $54.95.
Their phone number is 1-800-266-0470. I put them on my '36 and I'm very pleased.It might be worth looking into Dad.

Straightpipes 03-21-2014 09:11 PM

Re: 1935 Ford Juice Brakes
 

My 35 coupe has juice brakes. You can buy the brake lines for a 39' and they will be much cheaper. Check Spadero or Early Ford V8 in SC.
The early V8 garage master cylinder mount is pretty simple to fabricate. I used his pics as a reference and saved a bunch of money on my 34 pickup. My 35 coupe has a 39 pedal assembly.
You will still need to mount the conectors and go thru the inner fender panels for the hoses etc.

Mr. Will 03-21-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Straightpipes (Post 845240)
My 35 coupe has juice brakes. You can buy the brake lines for a 39' and they will be much cheaper. Check Spadero or Early Ford V8 in SC.
The early V8 garage master cylinder mount is pretty simple to fabricate. I used his pics as a reference and saved a bunch of money on my 34 pickup. My 35 coupe has a 39 pedal assembly.
You will still need to mount the conectors and go thru the inner fender panels for the hoses etc.

I looked at the pics and also thought it looked pretty easy to fab. Thanks For the tip on the 39' brake lines.
Did you do the master with the bell crank that mounts sideways to the frame?

billwill 03-21-2014 09:31 PM

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Read number four site how do I know

Mr. Will 03-21-2014 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by billwill (Post 845251)
Read number four site how do I know

I am sorry but I don't understand your comment... http://www.348-409.com/forum/styles/...ies2/dunno.gif

my4dv8 03-22-2014 02:50 AM

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Brake lines are a walk in the park to bend up out of the softer cupro nickel tube . It still complies with all regulations and bend and flares real nice.

JM 35 Sedan 03-22-2014 06:18 AM

Re: 1935 Ford Juice Brakes
 

I put brake floaters on my '35 fordor sedan last spring and they made a huge difference in how this car brakes. I have driven cars with hydraulic brake conversions, using '39-'48 components, that did not stop as well as my car stops now. The new Lincoln brake offers may be a different story.

Mart 03-22-2014 06:37 AM

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The 35 never had juice brakes as standard. Any 35 converted to juice brakes is non standard. How would you expect a supplier to tool up to supply pre bent brake pipes for a non standard application? Unless the supplier were doing the conversions themselves no two would be alike.

If you move away from stock you have to be prepared to do some things yourself.

Mart.

Brendan 03-22-2014 07:10 AM

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I have floaters on my 36 pickup with soft lining, it stops very well. the 36 feels like it has power brakes compared to my model a witch has 48 juice brakes!

Admiral 03-22-2014 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan (Post 845343)
I put brake floaters on my '35 fordor sedan last spring and they made a huge difference in how this car brakes. I have driven cars with hydraulic brake conversions that did not stop as well as my car stops now.

What kind of brake floaters do you have? Just curious.

rick r 03-22-2014 08:26 AM

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I agree with my4dv8 on the cupro nickel brake line. Got mine at CARQUEST. beautiful bends with a bender or just use your fingers. Double flares are no problem with a basic double flaring tool.

37 Coupe 03-22-2014 08:30 AM

Re: 1935 Ford Juice Brakes
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart (Post 845347)
The 35 never had juice brakes as standard. Any 35 converted to juice brakes is non standard. How would you expect a supplier to tool up to supply pre bent brake pipes for a non standard application? Unless the supplier were doing the conversions themselves no two would be alike.

If you move away from stock you have to be prepared to do some things yourself.

Mart.

This is true but I bought all prebent lines for my 37 coupe from Classic Tube in Lancaster Pa. They had a program to do 1939 brakelines so that is what I went with as I was using 39 pedals and most everything else from a 39 Ford. The price was around $125.00 for the complete set but they would upgrade to stainless for another $25.00 which is what I did and everything fit perfectly with no leaks. I was going to go with Richards at the time but almost $400.00 for regular steel lines made me go with the 39 pedals and stuff I had and Classic Tube lines. A friend who has a 36 3 window that was converted to hydraulics before he bought the car over 50 years ago just bought the 39 set in stainless and he had no trouble with installation. The frames are close to being the same and areas that are a little different like the front crossmember the tubing is forgiving. You will have to drill and tap for 1/4-20 threads on rear radius rods for 39 type tubing clamps. If you use a 39 set of pedals and a master cylinder and install on frame where a 39 would have had them the programed 39 set should work,did on two jobs that I can verify.

JM 35 Sedan 03-22-2014 08:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral (Post 845359)
What kind of brake floaters do you have? Just curious.

The set I used was purchased from MAC's Antigue Auto Parts maybe 10 years ago. This was before I was aware of Flathead Ted's floaters. I plan to use a set of his floaters for my '35 coupe. I believe MAC's still offers both Ted's and a lower cost brand in their catalog, or at least they did the last time I checked.


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