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1933 Canadian passenger car floor - DavidG

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This is the floor in my 34 Canadian standard phaeton

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A friend of mine had a German Ford, wish I had a pic. Similar to the French ones. He sold it and since passed.

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Do you remember what year German Ford, what the color was?? I have been following ALL German Ford's I can find since about 2003 and never knew of one up in Tennessee??? I am always eager to find out about more of them!!!

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Torpedo,


Other things? Please refer to Trevor's two photos in #2 and #3 above. If the body does come down all the way to the way to the top of the running boards, the doors must be shorter, top to bottom. You also keeping overlooking the narrower doors with eight separate hinges compared to only four combined hinges on Canadian and U.S. 33-'34 phaeton bodies

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Dave,


Over the hears I've had a total of seventeen '33-'34s. Of those, only the 5-window coupe shown in my earlier photo was of Canadian origin.. All the rest wee manufactured in the main in the U.S., six for domestic sale and ten exported. Of the ten, I imported four from Brazil (LHD) and six I imported from Argentina (RHD). All six of those Argentine cars had two battery access holes in the floor (one on the left for V8s and one on the right for fours). In other words, both Canada and the U.S. made both types of floor pans for their vehicles destined for RHD countries (and evidently sometimes by mistake).

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Another difference in the Australian assembled 33-34 car chassis from the USA one is it has four rear brake rods, two extra for the handbrake where as the USA and some Canadian cars had only two rear brake rods. I have a Canadian manufactured South Africa assembled four door sedan RHD which has only two rear brake rods. Regards, Kevin.

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David,
I figured it was for versatility to build LHD and RHD cars on the same production line. My phaeton does have a vin number that starts with "C" so I am pretty confident it was built for the Canadian market. As always , Thank you for sharing your research and knowledge. We are always learning.

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And my thanks to Trevor and Dave Slater as my teachers of things unique to the period products of Ford Australia.

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Twin Brake Rods to each rear wheel - Australian 1933 & 1934 Fords as mentioned by Koates in #46

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Anti Rattler Spring separating twin rear Brake Rods - Australian 1933 & 1934 Fords

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The French,33,34 as well as the 35's have the 4 brake rods for the rear.32,s also.I have seen a German 35 with the 4 rods also.Here is a pic of the French 32 chassis

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Hi David, Trevor
With your additional comments I can surely conclude that I have an Australian body. Attached pic of the car that shows dual rear brake rods ;)

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Without the post-production add-ons.

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Australian 1933-1934 Ford Cowl showing "pie-cut" to alter angle of lower Moulding because of our wooden floors.

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I did not know that the Australian factory actually modified a North American cowl. I just figured they stamped their own. Learn something new every day.

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The tooling cost to Ford was not worth the low production # projected , some of smaller parts they may have made & possibly the tub.?

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Australia Ford made everything from the cowl backward on site, I was surprised they couldn’t make the cowl too. Or, why not use the same dimensions that Ford used in North America? The 32 roadsters used the same dimensions for the outer tin on both continents. Why’d they change in 33?

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In an effort to save money, Ford Australia decided to use modified 1932 Ford Sedan bodies for their 1933 and 1934 Ford Sedans.
Check out this Australian 1934 Ford Sedan with a 1932 Ford rear Door fitted.
You will notice that all mouldings line up, the only exception being the cut-out for the back wheel, on account of the longer wheelbase.
Check out the wide moulding that only appeared on Australian 1933 and 1934 Ford Sedans.
The Australian 1933 and 1934 Ford Coupes, Coupe Utes, Roadsters and Phaetons all had narrow mouldings, like the USA models got.
That means that the while the front doors will interchange between the Sedans and Coupes, the mouldings are different between these two closed car bodies.
If your restoration project is missing a front door, there are a total of 4 front doors to chose from.
You had better know which is the correct one for your car.

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The measurements between the cowl and the rear door shuts on the Phation are the the same as usa ones ,the front doors are also the same in length .The rear doors are a 1" shorter in length, the center pillar is wider and takes up that 1",The doors are shorter in hight to make up for the sill and pie cut angle that Mercman alluded to .The C pillar support is a casting as opposed to a stamping .