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07-05-2017, 07:32 AM | #1 |
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Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
I would like to service my king pins this fall, is this something a shade tree mechanic should attempt or should I do as "Ol Ron says and let someone else do it"
What special tools would I need, best place to get parts? Etc. |
07-05-2017, 07:45 AM | #2 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
I took my old spindles off and took them and the bushing kit to the machine shop. They pushed out the old bushes and pushed in the new ones , reamed them to fit the new kingpins, and I put them back in.
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07-05-2017, 08:08 AM | #3 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
Do as John (above) did.
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07-05-2017, 08:44 AM | #4 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
I have reamers and used to work in a machine shop, so I'm used to working with them. There is a 'knack' to using them - certainly not rocket science, but there's somewhat of a learning curve. Before spending a lot of money on a reamer and possible making things worse, for a one-time repair, I'd take them to a pro. If you were local, I'd offer to do them for you free of charge.
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07-05-2017, 09:20 AM | #5 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
I think you will find the cost of the reamer ect. will out way the cost of having them done. There are many past threads on what is involved if you want to attempt it yourself.
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07-05-2017, 09:25 AM | #6 |
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07-05-2017, 09:47 AM | #7 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
I am a mechanic, and it was a good excuse to buy another tool!
But if your only going to do it once, then the shop is the way to go. Make sure to carry the kingpins in with the spindles so they can "test fit" them. |
07-05-2017, 10:28 AM | #8 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
Thanks for the offer tagman, I wish I did live closer. Talked to my local NAPA machine shop and he said I need to bring in the whole front axle, but I'm hearing I only need the spindles, which is correct.
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07-05-2017, 10:48 AM | #9 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
All you need is the spindles for the king pins & bushings. The king pin clamps in the axle and doesn't move - only the spindles move. Check the king pin holes in the axle for any damage, but they're normally OK and don't need attention.
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07-05-2017, 10:49 AM | #10 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
I've never heard of a machine shop requiring the front axle to fit the kingpins to the spindles. I'd find another shop. I just had 3 pairs of 37/40 spindles I picked at the LARS swap meet glass beaded, re bushed and king pins fit for 40.00 a pair. I don't know if that's high or low?
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07-05-2017, 07:18 PM | #11 | |
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07-05-2017, 07:46 PM | #12 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
The first "pro" I had redo my king pins (and maybe even the second) didn't check the alignment of the grease fitting with the hole in the bushing so no grease would go into the bushing. Make sure your "pro" does better than that. They should fit the bushing then look through the hole to make sure it's perfectly lined up. Finally, my "real pro" had to drill the bushing hole out a bit to get it right so the grease would go in.
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07-05-2017, 08:29 PM | #13 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
Using the proper reamer is the right way to go. The king pin reamers that were used back then had a lead or pilot that would go into the second hole. When finished the holes would be directly in line. What I did, with a lifetime of machine shop and machine tools, is turn about a 12 in long piece of water pipe, king pin size, minus .002 to .003 dia. With grinding compound and by hand quickly brought the bushings to size. Surprised me, but maybe a better fit than with reamer!
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07-05-2017, 09:04 PM | #14 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
And I suppose I would be remiss if I didn't show you how I ream mine with one of my wife's wooden spoons, kerfed with a bandsaw and strips of cloth backed sandpaper torn from a sanding belt. The other end is chucked in a drill and spun until the kingpin is a perfect fit. Like the poster with the piece of pipe, the alignment is excellent. The machine shop is a great alternative for most of you, but I live on an island with no machine shop so it's a 35.00 ferry ride and then again to pick them up and that's two days lost from work so I figure out how to do it here at the shop.
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07-05-2017, 09:17 PM | #15 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
Has anyone tried the king pins with needle bearings ?
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07-05-2017, 09:20 PM | #16 |
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You don't need a ream or special tools.
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07-05-2017, 09:47 PM | #17 |
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I've never tried them but lots of negative reports on them.
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07-06-2017, 07:43 AM | #18 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
They say honing gives the best results. I have heard of wrist pin bushings being expanded after being pressed in to give the tightest fit before final machining. GB lives on an island without a machine shop and I live in a city without one. It is getting harder to find places to do what we need.
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07-06-2017, 08:02 AM | #19 |
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Re: Is there a tutorial on king pin r&r
Do them yourself, all this running around paying other people waiting on them not for me. Working on your car is part of the hobby and should be fun and rewarding! If I don't have a tool I borrow it (remember that works both ways). Befriend other mechanics its far cheaper and the knowledge they have you can't pay for (bring them coffee and a roll when visiting;-))) don't be cheap, nobody likes a freeloader.That is also why this forum is also a Great resource I appreciate the time and knowledge that people here give and hopefully I can give something in return that helps. Thanks!
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Stop in at Morgan's on Washington St., sounds like they will help, they are experienced in all engines and automotive machine shop work.
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