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Old 05-20-2024, 09:58 AM   #1
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Default One Head stud too short each bank follow-up

So I posted a little over a week ago about one "short" head stud being too short to fully engage the head hex nut. Michael sent me a packet of about 6 more studs......NOTE on the ones he sent the amount of smooth shank compared to the "short" one I have....even though its only about 1/8th to 3/16 of an inch over all longer, the amount of smooth shank "MAY" be the difference maker??? I will report back soon!!!


Also, I looked around and decided to try these Mil Spec flat washers. I am quite happy with them as you can see a much tighter fit under the nut and less obtrusive looking.
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Old 05-20-2024, 10:21 AM   #2
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Yeah, I use the smaller diameter washers - though they come with my ARP studs. They don't protrude as much and don't have issues with the spot-facing on the aluminum heads. (Being too wide). Also, I like the Grade 8 or better mil-spec washers - as they don't gall like the Grade 5 stuff does. This gives a much more accurate torque reading.
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Those 'mill spec' washers in 1/2" would be just right on main bearing caps.
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GB: You should checkout the ARP stud kits for the mains - not too expensive and have really nice hardware. I think Red's Headers has them for around $50 or so?
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So I posted a little over a week ago about one "short" head stud being too short to fully engage the head hex nut. Michael sent me a packet of about 6 more studs......NOTE on the ones he sent the amount of smooth shank compared to the "short" one I have....even though its only about 1/8th to 3/16 of an inch over all longer, the amount of smooth shank "MAY" be the difference maker??? I will report back soon!!!


Also, I looked around and decided to try these Mil Spec flat washers. I am quite happy with them as you can see a much tighter fit under the nut and less obtrusive looking.




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I believe there is one longer stud for the firewall to ground strap.
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Old 05-20-2024, 11:42 AM   #7
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I believe there is one longer stud for the firewall to ground strap.
NOT on 1935. A little later though
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NOT on 1935. A little later though
Good to know. I learned something. I would guess that started in 1937??
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Robert,

Did the new studs fix the problem?
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I was laughing this AM at the title of this thread ---> kind of a way of mentioning a friend who isn't the "brightest bulb in the pack":

"I know Ole Tom . . he is one head stud too short. . . ."

That might be my new saying for those who are mentally challenged . . . thanks Rock!
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Old 05-22-2024, 09:31 AM   #11
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Did the new studs fix the problem?
I've drug up sorry the last couple of days, I will let you this evening OR first thing in the AM. Sorry!!! BUT I will let you know ASAP
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I've drug up sorry the last couple of days, I will let you this evening OR first thing in the AM. Sorry!!! BUT I will let you know ASAP
No rush on my end. Just curious.

B&S,

Without a doubt I've been accused of being one stud short of 24.
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I am pretty confident that it will work, IF you look at my picture and see where the stud bottoms out to the block, the smooth shank is about 3/8" longer than what I had (ie move the fine thread end out 3/8") SO that "should" (theoretically) give me the other 1/4"+ extra needed to full engage the threads of the hex nut.....BUT will confirm shortly for you.




Thanks to Michael as per usual, Third Gen Stepped up SO once again KUDO's to Michael
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No rush on my end. Just curious.

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Without a doubt I've been accused of being one stud short of 24.
Tim: Only one stud short of 24 . . . you bragger you! LOL
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Tim: Only one stud short of 24 . . . you bragger you! LOL
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The quick answer is YES, it worked perfectly. I forgot to take my phone with me to the shop, AND forgot to take the second stud with me as well SO I will post pictures first thing in the AM!!!
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The quick answer is YES, it worked perfectly. I forgot to take my phone with me to the shop, AND forgot to take the second stud with me as well SO I will post pictures first thing in the AM!!!
Excellent news!
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Here is the final pictures of the outcome. I had to use two jam nuts to install the new stud with the head on, my stud remover/installer would have grabbed onto the threads SO Plan B. Resealed the threads and anti-seized the shank and in they went. All is good
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Looking great . . . fire that baby up! LOL
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Looking great . . . fire that baby up! LOL
Thank's B&S, I appreciate the kind words and inspiration!! Its going to Norway SO I do have to figure a way to "Fire it Up" before I ship it.....WOULD make me feel a whole lot better knowing its tip top before it leaves me!!!!
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