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Thank you both. Not sure how many days we have left to hope for really hot weather here in the Northwest. In some ways it wouldn't matter if I didn't do the roof until next summer. I certainly don't plan on leaving it outside in the weather. Bill, can you tell me what goes on before the vinyl? I feel as a commercial type vehicle it wouldn't need padding for a plush look, just what's needed to wear well on the slats and maybe if the long grain vinyl is white on the underside I would rather see brown or black muslin or burlap whatever. The very next task at hand is the passenger side front door. And Bill I just saw your pm with Leonardos phone # Thanks!
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I used white flannel as an underlay material and I taped it in place. Flannel must come in a variety of colors take yer pick. Taped in place rather than stapled will avoid staple and or nails from showing thru tight roofing material. I would recommend that 2" wide red cello tape sold at building supply stores. Maybe by next year Lebaron will have access to the 66"wide material... Bill
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With summer winding down I got some time today to work on the passenger side front door. I decided to get a few pictures of this process. Once again I drilled out the hinge rivets in a rotten pickup truck door to use as woodie hinges. I had to weld up some of the holes I didn't need and drill and countersink the rest for #14 wood screws. I mortised them into my laminated maple front door stiles and re-drilled the hinges for oversized pins. The pins are made from an old screwdriver I got at a yard sale. I will be welding thick washers on for heads for these new pins. As on the driver's side I am assembling this door within it's opening because of the twisted shape as it mates into the cowl. The rear stile was milled to fit the door jamb and held with a temporary screw to hold it in place. Tomorrow after work I plan to rout the vertical grooves that hold the panels as well as the mahogany marine plywood splines that join the door parts together with the 3m 5200 marine adhesive/sealant and hardened star drive construction lags. With a spline as opposed to Henry's mortise and tenon, both horizontal and vertical members have a 3/8 x 3/4" deep groove and a 1 1/2" strip of marine plywood is inserted and glued in with the 5200. Strong and resilient joint, but tough to pull apart to repair.....It feels good to be back at it!
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Boy, that's going to be a beaut. when. Your done with it.
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GB I love your use of found objects! You make this look so easy.
Keep V-8ing and 4-banging!
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Love the BUZZ in pic#4. Bet you can juggle four balls... Good luck Bill
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The perimeter of the door shaped and glued up with it's joinery in the opening. I used to think I might like to build a few of these in 'semi-retirement'. Trying to build this in my time off has been a stretch, particularly when I do woodwork all day long.
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Got that last door hung. It isn't completely done by a long shot, but it's as done as the other 3. Now I need to think about barn doors vs tailgate. That might wait til spring while I do some mechanical work on it for a change of pace.
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GB,
Beautiful! I vote barn doors! They will be unique and fit the look of the truck.
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There are some woodie owners here that suggest barn doors may seal better than a tailgate/liftgate against the exhaust fumes that seem to suck into a wagon's tail end. Need more maple to do either and my supplier doesn't deliver to the island for another ten days or so. The barn doors are growing on me.
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If your taking votes...... make mine for Barn Doors.... it just seems more traditional for a truck than a tailgate and hatch. Your doing a great job and I cant wait till you take us all for a ride... Mark
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If it mattered (it doesn't), my view would be to have a traditional tailgate and hatch. Stu
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Hi all; Brand X suburbans had both types and the barn doors did seal better and tighter. Newc
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GB, Just another option. I've had barn doors; hatch lid with a tail gate and the one I have now, hatch back without a flop down tail gate. Hinged at the top. Swings high and makes a nice sun shade/umbrella. Allows you to reach way inside to retrieve the groceries and you don't bang your thighs on any sharp edge
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For what it's worth, barn doors allow an easier reach into the cargo bay. Cargo doesn't have to be lifted past the tailgate going in or out.
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No question a liftgate with woodgrained gas lift cylnders is the most functional but you know that ain't happenin'! Go with barn doors and give the windows some style.... Bill
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Funny, in the last set of photos I had added a triangle of plywood with a radiused corner in the upper rear corner of the rear side window. I was gonna ask if I should do this in maple like the '47 ford woodies. I know the ford built corner is sawn in and mitered. Then all the while when I think about barn doors I wonder if the two windows should have radiused corners. Henry's wagon lift gate never did. I know the windows need to be big, as my tonner panel's back windows are way too small.
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Here's my sketch. It makes a lot of sense to me. What a small time local builder would opt for? Glass is cheap with square corners... Woodwork is basically the same as a house door, not a chris craft or a steinway. Windows look big. This is the first sketch I have done for any part of the woodie. The Seattle architects I work with always want 'shop drawings'. I have no drawing board, no cad program, or anything resembling that. One time I mailed the 'shop drawings' we use back to a Seattle firm. They were all on scraps of 1/4" plywood and wouldn't fit through the slot on my fax machine. It feels great to be getting old and not care what the yuppie architects think about how I operate...... Well I think I have to get the sketch out of a pdf?? Details at eleven... edit: If someone can make this sketch right side up and appear without a link, have at it, I give up.....
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