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Mitch//pa · 03-06-2016, 07:55 PM

Pull the floor boards back out and the inspection cover off so you can see what's going on

Patrick L. · 03-06-2016, 08:07 PM

I'm not going to repeat the first question.

If you're afraid to go out and drive it, then put it in gear with the clutch pedal depressed and rock the car to try and free up the stuck disk.

Seems like you said the oil was 600 weight ? Just where did that come from. Are you sure its not 600W.

jchochole · 03-06-2016, 08:10 PM

Okay- gotcha. This may sound like a noob question but what will I see once I look in there? Will I see the flywheel stuck?

jchochole · 03-06-2016, 08:17 PM

By 600 weight I meant the normal Model T and Model A transmission oil sold by the vendors. I put it in myself.

v bogart · 03-06-2016, 08:37 PM

If the car was mine I would jack up the rear wheels install jack stands start the car in 3rd gear rev it up & jam on the brakes a few times . It has worked for me.

FrankWest · 03-06-2016, 08:54 PM

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Before you do anything else drain some transmission oil and add a quart of Marvel Myster Oil..Let it sit over night then try to get things moving. Maybe the MMKO will loosen things up a bit. Do this before you begin taking things apart. You got nothing to loose by 5 dollars.

bbrocksr · 03-06-2016, 09:12 PM

Put the car in high gear,hold the clutch pedal down while driving at a moderate speed then get on and off the throttle rapidly while the clutch is depressed. The resulting loads put on the clutch disc will probably break it loose.

You will have to tow or push start it while in high gear with the clutch depressed.
Bill

Benson · 03-06-2016, 09:12 PM

Maybe the lever on the end of the clutch shaft is broken and the shaft is not turning so the clutch remains engaged.

Have someone depress and release the clutch over and over again while you look at lever to see if it is cracked.

If cracked you can see the crack widen when you push the pedal and narrow when released.

jchochole · 03-06-2016, 09:14 PM

Alright boys, I will simulate running into a tree to see if she'll free herself.

Thanks to everyone for the support- you all are a terrific help!

Much appreciated,
Jim

bobpo1 · 03-06-2016, 09:21 PM

Be sure to let us know the outcome. Good Luck.

Tom Wesenberg · 03-06-2016, 11:53 PM

Finally After 26 replies #27 is the way to go. Benson could also have the answer, but when this happens from just setting, it's almost a guarantee that the disc is stuck to the flywheel.

I'd let the engine warm up in neutral, then shut it off, shift to second gear and start the engine and head down the road. Then push in the clutch and give it the gas and let up as mentioned in #27. This way it will be a one man job and shouldn't need to be pulled or pushed. Hopefully you live where the traffic is light.

Jacksonlll · 03-07-2016, 08:54 AM

The disk is stuck like everyone says. With the engine off, Push the clutch in, put it in third gear and have someone push the car. It will break loose. Happens all the time when a car sits.

jchochole · 03-07-2016, 10:11 AM

Thanks Gents- will do, as a noob with Model A's, this is the first time it has happened.

Thanks to everyone for the priceless support and help!!! I'll keep you updated as I attempt to free the stuck disc. The weather is warmer this week and my subdivision is mostly calm and quiet which is perfect for a little light driving.

JOHN CT · 03-07-2016, 10:59 AM

I have a question? Did you drain the transmission oil or added? Was the shift tower removed when you added or drained? Or did you removed the plus? Cuz that's the only change you made. Besides the floor boards. Just thinking.

jchochole · 03-07-2016, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHN CT

I have a question? Did you drain the transmission oil or added? Was the shift tower removed when you added or drained? Or did you removed the plus? Cuz that's the only change you made. Besides the floor boards. Just thinking.

I drained the old trans oil and added new 600wt + STP. I did not remove the shift tower cover nor go into the trans at all.

Simply new floorboards, new 600wt oil and cleaned & painted the motor and trans.

Mitch//pa · 03-07-2016, 01:14 PM

Cleaning off the old dirt / mud and fresh paint will do it every time

Thats the glue which keeps things working

roblesterjr04 · 03-07-2016, 04:08 PM

Probably not this, but when you put the shift tower back on after adding trans oil, were you careful to make sure the gears and forks were lined up right?

Mitch//pa · 03-07-2016, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roblesterjr04

Probably not this, but when you put the shift tower back on after adding trans oil, were you careful to make sure the gears and forks were lined up right?

Reread post #35

jm29henry · 03-07-2016, 08:15 PM

Did you take the tower off to fill the trans .if so maybe the shifter forks are not aligned properly ?

Bob C · 03-07-2016, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jm29henry

Did you take the tower off to fill the trans .if so maybe the shifter forks are not aligned properly ?

Read post 38

Bob

03-06-2016, 07:55 PM	#21
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Can't go into any gear? Pull the floor boards back out and the inspection cover off so you can see what's going on

03-06-2016, 08:07 PM	#22
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Can't go into any gear? I'm not going to repeat the first question. If you're afraid to go out and drive it, then put it in gear with the clutch pedal depressed and rock the car to try and free up the stuck disk. Seems like you said the oil was 600 weight ? Just where did that come from. Are you sure its not 600W.

03-06-2016, 08:10 PM	#23
jchochole Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 394	Re: Can't go into any gear? Okay- gotcha. This may sound like a noob question but what will I see once I look in there? Will I see the flywheel stuck? __________________ "Whether you think you can, or think you can't- you're right." H. Ford

03-06-2016, 08:17 PM	#24
jchochole Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 394	Re: Can't go into any gear? By 600 weight I meant the normal Model T and Model A transmission oil sold by the vendors. I put it in myself. __________________ "Whether you think you can, or think you can't- you're right." H. Ford

03-06-2016, 08:37 PM	#25
v bogart Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Forksville PA. Posts: 44	Re: Can't go into any gear? If the car was mine I would jack up the rear wheels install jack stands start the car in 3rd gear rev it up & jam on the brakes a few times . It has worked for me.

03-06-2016, 08:54 PM	#26
FrankWest Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,008	Re: Can't go into any gear? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Before you do anything else drain some transmission oil and add a quart of Marvel Myster Oil..Let it sit over night then try to get things moving. Maybe the MMKO will loosen things up a bit. Do this before you begin taking things apart. You got nothing to loose by 5 dollars.

03-06-2016, 09:12 PM	#27
bbrocksr Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Yakima Washington Posts: 913	Re: Can't go into any gear? Put the car in high gear,hold the clutch pedal down while driving at a moderate speed then get on and off the throttle rapidly while the clutch is depressed. The resulting loads put on the clutch disc will probably break it loose. You will have to tow or push start it while in high gear with the clutch depressed. Bill

03-06-2016, 09:12 PM	#28
Benson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,621	Re: Can't go into any gear? Maybe the lever on the end of the clutch shaft is broken and the shaft is not turning so the clutch remains engaged. Have someone depress and release the clutch over and over again while you look at lever to see if it is cracked. If cracked you can see the crack widen when you push the pedal and narrow when released.

03-06-2016, 09:14 PM	#29
jchochole Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 394	Re: Can't go into any gear? Alright boys, I will simulate running into a tree to see if she'll free herself. Thanks to everyone for the support- you all are a terrific help! Much appreciated, Jim __________________ "Whether you think you can, or think you can't- you're right." H. Ford

03-06-2016, 09:21 PM	#30
bobpo1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 301	Re: Can't go into any gear? Be sure to let us know the outcome. Good Luck.

03-06-2016, 11:53 PM	#31
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Can't go into any gear? Finally After 26 replies #27 is the way to go. Benson could also have the answer, but when this happens from just setting, it's almost a guarantee that the disc is stuck to the flywheel. I'd let the engine warm up in neutral, then shut it off, shift to second gear and start the engine and head down the road. Then push in the clutch and give it the gas and let up as mentioned in #27. This way it will be a one man job and shouldn't need to be pulled or pushed. Hopefully you live where the traffic is light.

03-07-2016, 08:54 AM	#32
Jacksonlll Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Michigan-- Member of Oakleaf of MARC Posts: 1,686	Re: Can't go into any gear? The disk is stuck like everyone says. With the engine off, Push the clutch in, put it in third gear and have someone push the car. It will break loose. Happens all the time when a car sits.

03-07-2016, 10:11 AM	#33
jchochole Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 394	Re: Can't go into any gear? Thanks Gents- will do, as a noob with Model A's, this is the first time it has happened. Thanks to everyone for the priceless support and help!!! I'll keep you updated as I attempt to free the stuck disc. The weather is warmer this week and my subdivision is mostly calm and quiet which is perfect for a little light driving. __________________ "Whether you think you can, or think you can't- you're right." H. Ford

03-07-2016, 10:59 AM	#34
JOHN CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: In my garage Posts: 465	Re: Can't go into any gear? I have a question? Did you drain the transmission oil or added? Was the shift tower removed when you added or drained? Or did you removed the plus? Cuz that's the only change you made. Besides the floor boards. Just thinking.

03-07-2016, 01:14 PM	#36
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Can't go into any gear? Cleaning off the old dirt / mud and fresh paint will do it every time Thats the glue which keeps things working

03-07-2016, 04:08 PM	#37
roblesterjr04 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 130	Re: Can't go into any gear? Probably not this, but when you put the shift tower back on after adding trans oil, were you careful to make sure the gears and forks were lined up right? __________________ -Rob 1929 Fordor Leatherback

03-07-2016, 08:15 PM	#39
jm29henry Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: michigan Posts: 1,126	Re: Can't go into any gear? Did you take the tower off to fill the trans .if so maybe the shifter forks are not aligned properly ?