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Steve Plucker · 08-31-2010, 05:57 PM

Ok...lets vote on it right now and be done with it! Let's see just where it will go.

How the heck do you do it here?

Can someone put up a poll on the subject?

Pluck

peters180a/170b · 08-31-2010, 07:02 PM

First you had MARC. Then some got pissed off from the WEST and said WE are starting our own club here [MAFCA]. A.A.C.A is 1 club with National meets 7 or 8 times a year [small but nice the same]. Membership around the world like MARC/MAFCA. Think some "old past" upper Board of Directors and club Officers don't see eye to eye [ largely on Judging standards] .That's why it take's so long to come out with "NEW Standards"] and NEWER STANDARDS TOO..

glenn in camino · 08-31-2010, 07:46 PM

Ok Pluck, I vote YES and will help make it happen any way I can.

Jim Mason · 08-31-2010, 08:05 PM

i vote no. I like two points of view. If i wanted a single opinion/outlook i'd just talk to myself. One club, one editor, one point of view...i'd rather not. I like when people disagree with me...it means we are both thinking and we'll get a better product....fwiw,jm

peters180a/170b · 08-31-2010, 08:13 PM

No, not a better product J.M. ,,you get 2 different judging on the same car...

Ron in Quincy · 08-31-2010, 08:44 PM

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I agree with Jim Mason.

I saw the same thing happen in a large California city many years ago; a few people got upset over nothing serious and formed a new A club. As time passed and the population increased both clubs increased membership, both have been successful, and both exist to this day.

I'm sure that most people in both clubs don't even know about the past and what good would it do ?

I think its healthy having our two National Clubs, I am a member of both, and intend to stay that way.

Ron

pdora · 08-31-2010, 09:06 PM

I signed up for one of them, I forget which, about six weeks ago and have heard nothing since. My check cleared right away though.

The Ford Barn seems to meet all my "A" needs.

Jim Mason · 08-31-2010, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by peters180a/170b

No, not a better product J.M. ,,you get 2 different judging on the same car...

isn't that better? two points of view, two different (i'd bet not that much different) scores? lets see, 23 areas, average of 3 people per area..lets say 70 pairs of eyes...2 meets...same standards. which will give a more 'accurate' (statistically significant) score? 70 pairs of eyes or 140? ...fwiw,jm

Bruce,Upstate NY · 08-31-2010, 09:14 PM

I vote no to any merger. I consider MARC more Eastern and MAFCA more Western, but have long belonged to both.I also would like more and smaller meets and tours spread across the country, making them accessible to more people.

Big D · 08-31-2010, 11:00 PM

I think that while the clubs are already set with one being more east and other West.... leave it as is...

HOWEVER-- Think that ONE set of standards and tech books is enough. Maybe keep both clubs but do more combining of standards and books...

pdora-- It takes a bit but membership info coming... mine took about 4-5 weeks.. and BTW--- (WL7MW, currently Huntsville, AL linked into North Alabama 2 meter repeater system)

msmaron · 08-31-2010, 11:09 PM

i vote NO...there are too many differences at this point to be able to merge, i think we are a few years away from that point and need some serious sit downs before that happens.

MCHinson · 08-31-2010, 11:12 PM

I don't think that anybody thinks a merger could happen immediately. I do think that the Board of Directors of both clubs should begin the process of developing a reasonable plan for a merger to put to the membership of both clubs for a vote.

Mike V. Florida · 08-31-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by msmaron

i vote NO...there are too many differences at this point to be able to merge, i think we are a few years away from that point and need some serious sit downs before that happens.

I only belong to one so what are the differences?
If there are real differences maybe I'll join both I like differing opinions.

Jerry Parr WI · 09-01-2010, 08:39 AM

My vote is no. I see no advantage to having fewer magazines, fewer national meets and fewer chances for any individual to become involved as an officer.

The advantage express by many is less expense. The opportunity to reduce your cost already exists by joining just one club. You automatically get the disadvantages listed above.

RonC · 09-01-2010, 11:51 AM

I agree with Jerry

Blessyouboys · 09-01-2010, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Parr WI

My vote is no. I see no advantage to having fewer magazines, fewer national meets and fewer chances for any individual to become involved as an officer.

The advantage express by many is less expense. The opportunity to reduce your cost already exists by joining just one club. You automatically get the disadvantages listed above.

So, perhaps the answer is to form a third club? More magazines, more meets and more officer positions!!!

08-31-2010, 05:57 PM	#1
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... Ok...lets vote on it right now and be done with it! Let's see just where it will go. How the heck do you do it here? Can someone put up a poll on the subject? Pluck

08-31-2010, 07:02 PM	#2
peters180a/170b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Putnam Valley N.Y. Posts: 2,151	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... First you had MARC. Then some got pissed off from the WEST and said WE are starting our own club here [MAFCA]. A.A.C.A is 1 club with National meets 7 or 8 times a year [small but nice the same]. Membership around the world like MARC/MAFCA. Think some "old past" upper Board of Directors and club Officers don't see eye to eye [ largely on Judging standards] .That's why it take's so long to come out with "NEW Standards"] and NEWER STANDARDS TOO..

08-31-2010, 07:46 PM	#3
glenn in camino Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camino, CA. Posts: 3,086	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... Ok Pluck, I vote YES and will help make it happen any way I can.

08-31-2010, 08:05 PM	#4
Jim Mason Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 914	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... i vote no. I like two points of view. If i wanted a single opinion/outlook i'd just talk to myself. One club, one editor, one point of view...i'd rather not. I like when people disagree with me...it means we are both thinking and we'll get a better product....fwiw,jm

08-31-2010, 08:13 PM	#5
peters180a/170b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Putnam Valley N.Y. Posts: 2,151	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... No, not a better product J.M. ,,you get 2 different judging on the same car... Last edited by peters180a/170b; 08-31-2010 at 08:35 PM.

08-31-2010, 08:44 PM	#6
Ron in Quincy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Quincy, CA. Posts: 1,708	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I agree with Jim Mason. I saw the same thing happen in a large California city many years ago; a few people got upset over nothing serious and formed a new A club. As time passed and the population increased both clubs increased membership, both have been successful, and both exist to this day. I'm sure that most people in both clubs don't even know about the past and what good would it do ? I think its healthy having our two National Clubs, I am a member of both, and intend to stay that way. Ron

08-31-2010, 09:06 PM	#7
pdora Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Rutledge, Georgia Posts: 184	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... I signed up for one of them, I forget which, about six weeks ago and have heard nothing since. My check cleared right away though. The Ford Barn seems to meet all my "A" needs. __________________ Peter A. Dora -- Rutledge, GA (AE4XH)

08-31-2010, 09:14 PM	#9
Bruce,Upstate NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, NY Posts: 385	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... I vote no to any merger. I consider MARC more Eastern and MAFCA more Western, but have long belonged to both.I also would like more and smaller meets and tours spread across the country, making them accessible to more people.

08-31-2010, 11:00 PM	#10
Big D Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 102	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... I think that while the clubs are already set with one being more east and other West.... leave it as is... HOWEVER-- Think that ONE set of standards and tech books is enough. Maybe keep both clubs but do more combining of standards and books... pdora-- It takes a bit but membership info coming... mine took about 4-5 weeks.. and BTW--- (WL7MW, currently Huntsville, AL linked into North Alabama 2 meter repeater system)

08-31-2010, 11:09 PM	#11
msmaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 3,600	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... i vote NO...there are too many differences at this point to be able to merge, i think we are a few years away from that point and need some serious sit downs before that happens. __________________ Mark Maron Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA MARC JSC Member MAFFI Trustee National Facebook Admin. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/ A7191-Sport Coupe 29 Roadster 29-Town Sedan 29-Original Special Coupe

08-31-2010, 11:12 PM	#12
MCHinson Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 401	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... I don't think that anybody thinks a merger could happen immediately. I do think that the Board of Directors of both clubs should begin the process of developing a reasonable plan for a merger to put to the membership of both clubs for a vote.

09-01-2010, 08:39 AM	#14
Jerry Parr WI Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 619	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... My vote is no. I see no advantage to having fewer magazines, fewer national meets and fewer chances for any individual to become involved as an officer. The advantage express by many is less expense. The opportunity to reduce your cost already exists by joining just one club. You automatically get the disadvantages listed above.

09-01-2010, 11:51 AM	#15
RonC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1,868	Re: All this talk about merging MARC and MAFCA... I agree with Jerry