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Old 11-23-2021, 01:43 AM   #1
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Default 1932 clutch issue

Hi. I changed my 11’’ clutch to a 10.
On the new one, I don’t have the adjusters.
So now, I have to much play in the pedal. The release bearing has a longer travel to push the pressure plate.
Except the fact I have to make a longer pushrod, is there a risk for the bearing guide or something else ?
French flathead, 1939 trans, original chassis and pedal assy.
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Old 11-23-2021, 09:47 AM   #2
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I apologize for not having the answer.
I would rather find the guy who rebuilds them, and keep the older one.
Your location may make it difficult, but somebody there ( thinking region ) must be capable.
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Old 11-23-2021, 10:02 AM   #3
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I apologize for not having the answer.
I would rather find the guy who rebuilds them, and keep the older one.
Your location may make it difficult, but somebody there ( thinking region ) must be capable.
Thanks for your reply.

the « old » one is almost new, when the engine was rebuilt.
Engine come from a french truck. I red some advice on the H.A.M.B.
it is highly recommended to change the 11 to a 10’’.
That’s what I did.Drilled, threaded and balanced the flywheel with the new pressure plate.
I can’t figure put the 11 back on.
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Old 11-23-2021, 10:29 AM   #4
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Will a 10" even fit in a '32 transmission. I'm no expert, but isn't a 9" as large as you can go without grinding the inside of the transmission case? Someone with more knowledge than I have should jump in here.
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Old 11-23-2021, 10:45 AM   #5
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Will a 10" even fit in a '32 transmission. I'm no expert, but isn't a 9" as large as you can go without grinding the inside of the transmission case? Someone with more knowledge than I have should jump in here.
No issue about clearance with the case with the 10. It’s a 1939 case.
Not sure with a 11 ?
My problem is the throwout bearing is to far away from the plate.

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Old 11-23-2021, 10:55 AM   #6
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Harold, You need remove inspection cover and see if the bearing collar has enough slide area. Take a picture if you can and post it.Here is a pic of the parts

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Old 11-23-2021, 10:58 AM   #7
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Harold, You need remove inspection cover and see if the bearing collar has enough slide area. Here is a pic of the parts
Can’t open the attached pic
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Old 11-23-2021, 11:44 AM   #8
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Here.The last pic shows how the assy should look when not depressed.How much play do you have?
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The new reproduction 10" Long type clutches don't have the adjustable fingers. A lot of folks here in the US still send there original clutch covers out for rebuild and adjustment. Fort Wayne Clutch in Indiana is a common place to send them here. This may not be so common in Europe. Even finding a good core in the EU could be challenging. Those old French SUMB military trucks had big truck stuff on them and those 11" jobs are pretty heavy. It really slows the throttle response down.
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I think he got the pars from USA.Looks like what Speedway sells.
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Re : Fort Wayne Clutch. Here's a post I made on the H.A.M.B. a couple of months ago :

I just got off the phone with Fort Wayne Clutch and I thought the folks here might be interested on how the conversation went. As a bit of background, I found a core left over from when I changed the clutch in my '51 Ford back in 2016. It was complete, in the original box, and had all of the original paperwork, including a sheet that said it was returnable for a $20 core charge as well as a UPS return label. Since I purchased it five years ago, I called them to make sure the return would go through and they told me that they didn't want it, as they were selling all new components now. This aroused my curiosity, and I asked him where they were able to get new components these days.

He answered, and this is a direct quote : "Oh, some guy named 'Wong Fu'."
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Old 11-23-2021, 12:21 PM   #12
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I’ll take some pics ASAP.
Parts come from Mac’s.

We don’t have NAPA stores here in EU. To save money, every order I make takes 3 to 4 months for delivery. I assume that choice but not easy to work with.
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Re : Fort Wayne Clutch. Here's a post I made on the H.A.M.B. a couple of months ago :

I just got off the phone with Fort Wayne Clutch and I thought the folks here might be interested on how the conversation went. As a bit of background, I found a core left over from when I changed the clutch in my '51 Ford back in 2016. It was complete, in the original box, and had all of the original paperwork, including a sheet that said it was returnable for a $20 core charge as well as a UPS return label. Since I purchased it five years ago, I called them to make sure the return would go through and they told me that they didn't want it, as they were selling all new components now. This aroused my curiosity, and I asked him where they were able to get new components these days.

He answered, and this is a direct quote : "Oh, some guy named 'Wong Fu'."

Good one tubman !! I have lots of stories of Speedwu and Macwu but this is not the thread for them.
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I have to send my cores to them to get them overhauled. They don't have the old Borg & Beck stuff in stock and no one reproduces them. I wouldn't be surprised if they sell new stuff instead of doing exchanges. The new ones likely cost less than the overhauls. You get what you pay for though. I have never done an exchange with them yet.
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Old 11-23-2021, 09:59 PM   #15
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It’s a shame for a seller like Mac’s to sell parts they fit but couldn’t work.
I didn’t notice when I bought it there’s no adjuster.
And when I installed it, I thought it will not be a problem.
Very disappointed.
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Old 11-24-2021, 12:07 AM   #16
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Found this. Could it help ?
But it’s for a tractor
https://www.dennis-carpenter.com/tra...it---10-spline
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Old 11-24-2021, 08:51 AM   #17
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Here are the pics.
#1 space between bearing and plate
#2 when bearing is close the plate. The rod is 1’’ to short
#3 space between bearing and case, bearing against plate
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Old 11-24-2021, 09:14 AM   #18
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Looks like you have the B-7521A 3 9/16 " long.The 34 is 4 11/16". V8 Ford sales has one that is 4 inches long.Would that work?

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Old 11-24-2021, 09:26 AM   #19
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Looks like you have the B-7521A 3 9/16 " long.The 34 is 4 11/16". V8 Ford sales has one that is 4 inches long.Would that work?
I don’t think so. Mine is about 3 1/2 long from one end to the other.
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Old 11-24-2021, 09:30 AM   #20
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Then you need the 34. Southside Obsolete or ThirdGen might have one. ThirdGen phone number is 844-327-5988.They open at 10:00.
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