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Old 10-23-2012, 06:30 PM   #41
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I have been doing some more work on the outer body panels and and have installed some of the floor pans, but in looking at the metal shaping that will bve required for the front and rear body sections, I felt that I needed to have a post shrinker for getting into the corners of the panels, so I have been working on this design for making a machine to use the smaller 40mm Eckold shrinking die sets.

I intend to waterjet the side panels, get a motor from a scrap yard (that I found this afternoon, with just the right gearbox), a few bearings around the shop and a couple of pulleys brings me to this drawing that I have been working on the two days.

Initial layout results in 94 strokes per minute, initial 3/16" die opening and an adjustable down feed handle. The handle is pushed up at the rear by a hardened 4140 'cam' with a 5/8" offset making an 1-1/4" stroke at the rear. The bottom of the arm is fitted with a 1/4" thick replaceable brass gib plate. The front die holder is made so that you can use either 40mm or the larger Eckold dies as well as the Marchant dies. The adaptors shown are identicle to the ones I made for my marchant to use the smaller Eckold 40mm dies.

I am gaining in enthusiasm for being able to shrink in a small area, and was unhappy with the wider Marchant shrinking dies, as well as the wide areas at the dies, so I put in a taller pedestal.

I got way behind working on the Model A Panel truck, so work on this machine may be quite slow, but I hope to complete it in the next few months, money and time permitting.


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Old 10-24-2012, 03:20 AM   #42
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The next time we talk we can go into details on this machine but isn't this basically an "electric-powered" kick shrinker?
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:37 AM   #43
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Yes, that is the intent. I used the kick shrinker and stretcher at Kerry Dixieland meet and that's what prompted the thinking, as opposed to making an Eckold style machine with the flywheel machine.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:04 AM   #44
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I luv du enginenewity of the speedster builders. ken
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:32 AM   #45
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I'd like to recommend a solid spacer between the two halves of the steering columns. Probably something with a turnbuckle device to set the chain tension. Otherwise, tension on the chain when you steer will pull the two shafts together making a mess?
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:46 AM   #46
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We have been making some small progress between customer work and machine building. Ethan is here and that makes a lot of things go faster. We have been adding the body mounting flanges to the edges of the bulkheads, drilling the panel mounting holes and finishing the .100" 3003 aluminum floor pans and firewall and practicing our bead forming and aluminum TIG welding. Getting started on the intake runners and the exhaust system.

Can't put it off much longer, will have to learn gas welding aluminum at some point to get the .060" body panels in shape to be mounted. Not many panels will require welding (on purpose, LOL). Primarily the panel just in front of the steering wheel, and the nose and tail sections.

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Here is a link to a few more pictures of the speedster:

http://www.mantiquesresto.com/Projects/Projects2.html

Click on either of the top two pictures at either side of the page.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:57 PM   #47
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Been working sparsely lately, but have made some progress.

Have mad a wooden buck for the cowl section, made both lower rear quarter panels and making a tool to insert some custom louvers for the rear and the hood sides.

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Old 11-09-2013, 02:56 PM   #48
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I spent 12 days last month at two metal shaping event, one in Huntsville, Alabama and one in southeast Minnesota. In Alabama I finally got all the panels to fit each other and TIG tack welded them together on the bucks that I had previously made. These pictures are an update on the progress on the cowl panel, the nose section and grill and the tail section.

The first pics show how the 'fixture' was made to put the 4" wide character line down the center. This character line will go from around the radiator cap, back over the entire length of the car to back around the gas filler neck.


These pictures are showing work done to tack weld the nose and tail section panels.

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Old 11-09-2013, 03:04 PM   #49
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Not smart enough to edit to add pictures on original post, so here are more pictures

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Do you suppose that you're working on a Land Speed Record car too is interfering with the completion of this speedster any??

BTW, your pix look great!!
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:45 AM   #51
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Brent, while I remain active in the land speed record body build, we both have been taking a step back to learn the nuances of gas welding aluminum panels. My speedster project has given me great impetus in accelerating my own learning curve in that area.

I have ordered a Meco Midget torch from the 'tinman' along with the smaller hoses to go with the small two stage regulators that I already have. While in Huntsville, I had an opportunity to use this setup and actually ran several 12" long beads with them and it gave me some additional confidence. After welding these panels, I hammered a 3/4" 'bump' in BOTH directions, I repeatedly ran them thru the planishing hammer and the English wheel and found NO cranks or any form of inclusions, giving me greater confidence in the ability to make aluminum panels for competitive and vibratory environments.
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Old 11-29-2013, 07:57 PM   #52
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Here are a few more pics as I have been fitting a few pieces to the chassis. I have also updated the website that has a lot more pictures of what is being done. here is a link.

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Old 11-30-2013, 07:59 PM   #53
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Hi Will, Here is some shots of one we had here at Berts,Thought this might be of interest to you. Pretty cool car,Enjoy Phil, Berts Model Anew speedster 021.jpg

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Here are a few more shots during mock up and build , Phil
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Old 12-01-2013, 09:05 AM   #55
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Hey Phil, thanks for the pictures and it's great to hear from you again.

Was this done at your guys shop? Local? Was there a place for the spare tire?

This builder sure did a nice job with the metal finishing. I hope mine turns out that nice when I am done. Gas welding the aluminum panels is my next 'concern' and I am getting close.

Thanks or the pictures. I saved them all.
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Have made substantial progress on gas welding the aluminum panels. They have been welded, dressed to shape and awaiting final fitting.

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Will,
do you still have your website for things that you sell.
i misplaced the link
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:28 AM   #58
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Mitch, I do still have the website. I have been updating it recently as well. Thanks for asking.

http://www.mantiquesresto.com/Projects/Projects2.html

Click along the blue line at the top with what your interests are.

I have been sidetracked lately by some non-Model A vintage cars. I have been fortunate to acquire some restoration work on a 1929 Rolls Royce boat tail speedster and a 1935 Bugatti Stelvio by Gangloff. This week I will be traveling to do some 3D scanning of the '35 Bugatti in an attempt to make some wooden 'egg crate' bucks for making the fenders.
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Sounds like you are truly blessed with great talent and a tremendous wife ! Keep posting the pictures to let us enjoy your progress !
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