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CGW · 03-11-2019, 06:37 PM

Hello.

I am wondering if a '39 generator would have a cut-out on it?

How many different types of generators were issued in '39 for passenger cars?

When was the last year for cut-outs on generators?

Thank you for your time and replies, Ford Barn.

-CGW

JSeery · 03-11-2019, 07:04 PM

On the wiring diagrams the 39 std shows a cut-out and a 39 dlx shows a voltage regulator, but I have no idea on the production dates. Kube would be a good source for that information.

CGW · 03-11-2019, 07:29 PM

Thank you JSeery.

From your reply I can assume there were different generator set-ups for standard and deluxe. This is helpful.

I hope to hear from Kube on this matter too.

-CGW

JSeery · 03-11-2019, 07:42 PM

Here are the diagrams if that is of interest to you. Different generators, 2 brush vs 3 brush.

v8fordman · 03-11-2019, 07:47 PM

The generators are totally different for a deluxe and standard. Two brushes versus three. Voltage regulator versus cutout. You may want to find someone with a copy of the '38-'39 Book which was done by Gary Mallast for the V8 Club of America or go on the EFV8 Club website and purchase one. Anything you need to know is in this book.

Kube · 03-11-2019, 08:21 PM

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1939 was the last year for a cutout. In the initial part of the production run (1939 models) the Standard did indeed get a cutout while the Deluxe got a regulator. Around February, 1939, all models, Standard and Deluxe were supposed to have a regulator installed. How quickly that actually took effect is anyone's guess. Probably within a few weeks...
Note that the generator was specific to a regulator OR a cutout. the two could not be interchanged.
There is speculation that throughout the entire production ruin, the Standard, when ordered with a radio, got the voltage regulator. I can't say how true that is.

ford38v8 · 03-11-2019, 09:45 PM

Mike, "Starting February 1938 two-brush generators with voltage regulators were specified for all radio equipped cars."
This quote from the '38-'39 Ford Book, page 7-25, which is also referenced in chapter IV, and in Running Changes in chapter VIII.

CGW · 03-11-2019, 09:49 PM

Thank you for your input.

I appreciate you all taking your time to educate me on this subject.

Thank you Ford Barn.

-CGW

oldandtired · 03-12-2019, 05:58 AM

Didn't the 39 have both an "ammeter" and a "battery" gauge available? Were those for the different generator setups?

JSeery · 03-12-2019, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by oldandtired

Didn't the 39 have both an "ammeter" and a "battery" gauge available? Were those for the different generator setups?

Back to the wiring diagrams, the std shows an ammeter and the dlx shows a battery (volt) gauge.

cas3 · 03-12-2019, 08:46 PM

thats interesting, i thought volt gauges were a more recent trend

ford38v8 · 03-13-2019, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cas3

thats interesting, i thought volt gauges were a more recent trend

Ammeters up to 39 Std. 39 DLX. and later had Voltmeters

HD · 03-13-2019, 05:33 AM

39 standard used a 3 brush gen with a cut out , fan mounted on gen, 39 deluxe used a 2 brush gen with a voltage regulator, fan mounted on front of crankshaft

Kube · 03-13-2019, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HD

39 standard used a 3 brush gen with a cut out , fan mounted on gen, 39 deluxe used a 2 brush gen with a voltage regulator, fan mounted on front of crankshaft

Not always. Read through the previous posts.

TomTruck · 03-13-2019, 06:59 PM

I have a 39 Standard that originally came with a 3 brush generator and cutout. The output of this generator is only rated at 15 amps at 6 volts. When driving at night with headlights and a heater when the generator is adjusted for maximum output it would "sling solder" out of the commutator and still not keep up with demand. I ended up installing a 2 brush with regulator for normal use. I believe the 2 brush generator is rated for 30 amps.

Tinker · 03-13-2019, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3

thats interesting, i thought volt gauges were a more recent trend

Explain recent?

just kidding.

ford38v8 · 03-13-2019, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinker

Explain recent?

just kidding.

You question "recent"? Hell, an explanation of "trend" would be more fun!

Tinker · 03-13-2019, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8

You question "recent"? Hell, an explanation of "trend" would be more fun!

Guess I'm not a fun guy...

Anything after 1960s is recent to me Alan.

ford38v8 · 03-13-2019, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinker

Guess I'm not a fun guy...

Anything after 1960s is recent to me Alan.

We all seem to be very proud of being old-timers, but I'd give anything to be a know-nothing punk ass kid again!

Tinker · 03-13-2019, 11:18 PM

Being in my 50s, I'm a little of both. One foot in, and one foot out. Hopefully.

03-11-2019, 06:37 PM	#1
CGW Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 30	Cut out on '39 generators? Hello. I am wondering if a '39 generator would have a cut-out on it? How many different types of generators were issued in '39 for passenger cars? When was the last year for cut-outs on generators? Thank you for your time and replies, Ford Barn. -CGW

03-11-2019, 07:04 PM	#2
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Cut out on '39 generators? On the wiring diagrams the 39 std shows a cut-out and a 39 dlx shows a voltage regulator, but I have no idea on the production dates. Kube would be a good source for that information.

03-11-2019, 07:29 PM	#3
CGW Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 30	Re: Cut out on '39 generators? Thank you JSeery. From your reply I can assume there were different generator set-ups for standard and deluxe. This is helpful. I hope to hear from Kube on this matter too. -CGW

03-11-2019, 07:47 PM	#5
v8fordman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 860	Re: Cut out on '39 generators? The generators are totally different for a deluxe and standard. Two brushes versus three. Voltage regulator versus cutout. You may want to find someone with a copy of the '38-'39 Book which was done by Gary Mallast for the V8 Club of America or go on the EFV8 Club website and purchase one. Anything you need to know is in this book.

03-11-2019, 08:21 PM	#6
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 8,990	Re: Cut out on '39 generators? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) 1939 was the last year for a cutout. In the initial part of the production run (1939 models) the Standard did indeed get a cutout while the Deluxe got a regulator. Around February, 1939, all models, Standard and Deluxe were supposed to have a regulator installed. How quickly that actually took effect is anyone's guess. Probably within a few weeks... Note that the generator was specific to a regulator OR a cutout. the two could not be interchanged. There is speculation that throughout the entire production ruin, the Standard, when ordered with a radio, got the voltage regulator. I can't say how true that is. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

03-11-2019, 09:45 PM	#7
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,635	Re: Cut out on '39 generators? Mike, "Starting February 1938 two-brush generators with voltage regulators were specified for all radio equipped cars." This quote from the '38-'39 Ford Book, page 7-25, which is also referenced in chapter IV, and in Running Changes in chapter VIII. __________________ Alan

03-11-2019, 09:49 PM	#8
CGW Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 30	Re: Cut out on '39 generators? Thank you for your input. I appreciate you all taking your time to educate me on this subject. Thank you Ford Barn. -CGW Last edited by CGW; 03-12-2019 at 02:54 AM.

03-12-2019, 05:58 AM	#9
oldandtired Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edgefield, SC Posts: 811	Re: Cut out on '39 generators? Didn't the 39 have both an "ammeter" and a "battery" gauge available? Were those for the different generator setups?

03-12-2019, 08:46 PM	#11
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,568	Re: Cut out on '39 generators? thats interesting, i thought volt gauges were a more recent trend

03-13-2019, 05:33 AM	#13
HD Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 968	Re: Cut out on '39 generators? 39 standard used a 3 brush gen with a cut out , fan mounted on gen, 39 deluxe used a 2 brush gen with a voltage regulator, fan mounted on front of crankshaft

03-13-2019, 06:59 PM	#15
TomTruck Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Va. Posts: 41	Re: Cut out on '39 generators? I have a 39 Standard that originally came with a 3 brush generator and cutout. The output of this generator is only rated at 15 amps at 6 volts. When driving at night with headlights and a heater when the generator is adjusted for maximum output it would "sling solder" out of the commutator and still not keep up with demand. I ended up installing a 2 brush with regulator for normal use. I believe the 2 brush generator is rated for 30 amps.

03-13-2019, 11:18 PM	#20
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Cut out on '39 generators? Being in my 50s, I'm a little of both. One foot in, and one foot out. Hopefully. Last edited by Tinker; 03-14-2019 at 10:45 AM.