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Old 01-21-2020, 06:39 PM   #1
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Got a letter in the mail that said Tens Publishing Group was suspending publishing about 22 plus titles and offering up a lot of crap online to compensate for loss of subscription. This sucks royally-I for one could care less about online crap!!
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This is the wave of the future whether we like it or not. Printed formats are falling like flies.
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I feel your frustration! - I was very lucky to get the 35 Coupe featured in the Nov 2019 addition - I think that was the last or 2nd to last magazine before closing!

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I got the same letter about my Street Rodder subscription. I didn't like the options either, so I sent them an email and told them they owed me an extension on my Hot Rod subscription. They have agreed to do that. I hope Hot Rod survives.
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Read all about the demise of dozens of titles of dedicated car magazines on this Link.
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It's the way of the future. Even my daily newspapers are now a shell of what they once were. When I was a boy I came home from school and delivered the evening edition of the newspaper. I can't imagine two newspapers on the same day anymore.
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Sad, the demise of the printed media...
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I could care less about the 3000 hp , turbo charged fire breathing monsters that are in HOT Rod Magazine. who can afford that crap? I have subscribed to HRM for over 50 years but would not pay for another one especially since the loss of anything interesting to me that used to be in it. I guess it was a clue to the demise when they could not even put a beauty queen picture in the magazine.
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This is the wave of the future whether we like it or not. Printed formats are falling like flies.
In a sense, no one to blame but ourselves! Ask yourself: "Where have I been getting my parts, from a Magazine ad, or off the internet?" When we quit patronizing the companies that advertise in the mags, they either quit advertising or demand lower rates. Same with newspapers: People don't seem to want wait until the next morning to read the complete story of a current event, one that was most likely fact-checked, at least to some extent. Instead they want instant "news", no matter how poorly written by some juvenile pot smoking goofball pretending to be a journalist!
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Journalist are a thing of the past. Same true news. Its all slanted.
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If you could care less about on line crap then why are you here? We get information - bothe good and bad but nothing new there - in the blink of an eye. The internet is like a huge encyclopedia or magazine with the easiest to use index known to man. We are lucky for Ryan who keeps this stuff coming.
Your subscription to any print media has historically been paid for by advertisers. It is no longer as effective marketing tool as it used to be. It's the payoff.
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I used to get Legendary Ford from a book store in the city (Denver), then they went digital and are now gone.
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I’ve also noticed Hemings is getting thinner than it used to be.
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Alan, right you are about Hot Rod Magazine. I stopped reading when it couldn't decide whether it was a Hot Rod, Road and Track, Car Craft, Go Kart, 4 x 4, Muscle Car or a Speedboat magazine.
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Totally agree with you !
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how about the total scam of a paid for subscription being just cut off and no offer of a refund? did they file chapter 11? 7? how many people were out of a job?
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No scam. TEN Publishing is still in business and, according to what I have read on other sites, if you contact them and ask for a refund of the unused part of the subscription, they will cheerfully comply.
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how about the total scam of a paid for subscription being just cut off and no offer of a refund? did they file chapter 11? 7? how many people were out of a job?

This is the way it has happened for every mag title that went tits-up over the years for me. At best, they say that they'll send the remainder of your monthlies as a subscription to "Basket Weavers International" or "Tiddly-Winks Journal". Now-a-days, everything is about the HEREAFTER....it's only your money that they're HERE AFTER. Did someone mention that "Street Rodder" is now gone also? I had no idea. DD
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The beauty of a print magazine is that you can read it at your leisure. Reread that last paragraph if you need to. Read it from back to front if you like! (Ever turn to the inside back cover first?) Hard to do with a computer! Ever roll your magazine up and swat that pesky fly? Even harder to do with a computer! Seems a lot of online content is just blather to add viewing time and get more money.
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Also I find print magazines much more suitable for "the reading room". Somehow a laptop just doesn't work as well in there for me!

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The beauty of a print magazine is that you can read it at your leisure. Reread that last paragraph if you need to. Read it from back to front if you like! (Ever turn to the inside back cover first?) Hard to do with a computer! Ever roll your magazine up and swat that pesky fly? Even harder to do with a computer! Seems a lot of online content is just blather to add viewing time and get more money.

And, don't forget the primary purpose of a magazine as a bathroom read - even the advertisements are enjoyable to look at. Laptops and Ipads just don't seem to belong on the throne with you...
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Is Hustler still in print?
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Street Rodder quit too...they sent me a refund for my subscription.
My Raleigh, NC paper will stop the Saturday edition in March...but hey! it's available online!
no refund available, just the subscribers tough luck I guess.
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If you call the number 1 877 485 6429 and wait forever you can get a refund . no problem except for the wait on hold
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Note; these titles were ACTIVELY crying for renewals and new subscribers right up to the deadline!!! newc
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I like the old little 50s mags. Have a small collection.

Now days a lot of magazines are moving into digital content.

One mentioned by the original poster is the 4x4 magazine.... http://www.fourwheeler.com/

Lot of stuff on motortrend for $5 a month.
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I have almost 2 years left on my Street Rodder subscription as well as a multi year subscription to HR so I asked for a refund. The only reason I get HR is because it was very inexpensive. It wouldn't even be so bad if SR'r was offered online but to just end it like they did sucks.
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Yeah oh well about two weeks ago I got the first issue of my new 2 yr subscription.

Haven't opened it yet.
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I'm waiting for Alzheimer's to kick in a little bit; then, all of the old mags I have from the '50's through the '80's will be new again!
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Got Street Rodder magazine last month haven't yet got this month. Maybe a letter will come instead of magazine???
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JUst got my letter saying they discontinued Street Rodder. offered me an on-line sub. to some crap online magazine. gave me a ph.# to call if I had any questions.-- they answer the phone, say they are busy, send them an e-mail. no option to even be put on hold. piss poor way to do business.
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I sent an e-mail a week ago and had a return e-mail saying a representative would contact me soon. I too had just added two years to my subscription to HRD
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Called them yesterday and got through. They cheerfully refunded my Street Rodder subscriptions, had $5 left on my old one and $95 on the new one one not started yet. Yea, it sucks, but as they say, nothing is forever.
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O.K guys take your refunds and subscribe to the V-8 Times. It's still here and will be for a real long time. Can't go wrong for $35 a year.
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Also the Early Ford V-8 Foundation
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V8 Times...delightful publication - one of my favs!
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I haven't received a letter from SR. I just renewed for 3 years and found out about a week after the check cleared that all those magazines were dumped.
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O.K guys take your refunds and subscribe to the V-8 Times. It's still here and will be for a real long time. Can't go wrong for $35 a year.
Best of all you can have your car featured in the V8 Times by submitting a story and some pictures. People from different countries can read about your car or maybe even tech tips. Sure we have that here but when this server crashed the V8 Times will still be there.
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Received this email yesterday:

Please be advised that we received your subscription order from the National Publishers Exchange Agency. Their telephone number is 1-888-559-6577. They will be issuing the refund.

Thank you for the many years of subscribing with us; we appreciate your patronage.
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I was in Target the other day (my wife dragged me in) and they had the January 2020 issue of Hot Rod Deluxe. Is that the last issue being issued? I bought it only as a "collector's" item. They burned me up a few years ago with an article about a miracle pressure plate that would fit on an off brand flywheel and work with an early Ford throw out bearing. It didn't....
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Yes January is the last issue. They initially claimed they would continue coverage online, but that was a lie. There hasn't been any updates on the website at all and I heard they let everyone including the editor go.
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Can't beat Rodder's Journal and Hop Up! Long live print!!
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I know I quit the subscriptions and sorry they all went out of business but they just kind of spent there way out of my interest. I was more of a Chassis Engineering type person instead of a Fatman frame swap. We just kind of drifted apart and I'm fine not paying alimony anymore.
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they sent an e-mail and are returning my unused subscription money in 4 to 6 weeks. well at least they did this
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Creating a physical item is expensive. Digital content is spewed out in nausea and is cheaper on the web. But not always productive in return. Too many sources can flood what it good.
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I didn't have a subscription to Hemmings for a couple of decades. I got an offer in the mail that was too good to turn down and subscribed for a year. The year is almost up and I will not renew. There isn't anything wrong with HMN other than for me the print in the sections I want to read is too small for me to read easily.
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2nd that oldandtired, did same as you. it suck to be old!
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Did your check engine light come on? Happens a lot after 50.
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Thank you for the many years of subscribing with us; we appreciate your patronage.
So I called the National Publishers Exchange Agency as Ten Publishing told me and NPEA said that they have nothing to do with the refunds as they do not collect the subscription payments. They told me to call a company called Forte for the refund. Well.... I called and Forte cant find any record of my payment so now I'm waiting to hear back from Ten. Probably never see the refund but I intend to file a complaint with our state's Attorney General regardless.
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Ahh! The old "Double-Shuffle". Typical!
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So I called the National Publishers Exchange Agency as Ten Publishing told me and NPEA said that they have nothing to do with the refunds as they do not collect the subscription payments. They told me to call a company called Forte for the refund. Well.... I called and Forte cant find any record of my payment so now I'm waiting to hear back from Ten. Probably never see the refund but I intend to file a complaint with our state's Attorney General regardless.

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I covet a good publication. Have a few first editions. Favorite is a Vonnegut.


I have a stack of deluxes for shipping I'd send. Missing a few that I sent as a carepackage to a afgan troop a few yrs back. Weird thing is the when I told the post off they mentioned chaplains sorted the mail. Hopefully they let the tuna packs through too.


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