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FrankWest · 11-30-2015, 06:15 PM

For my 1933 fordor model B I have a missing Door Screw. I need to get another screw for this door.
Does anyone know what this screw is called so that I can order one.

JSeery · 11-30-2015, 06:26 PM

Not sure of the name, about everyone has them I would think. I would check with the bolt guy, Roy Nacewicz .

Willit Stop · 11-30-2015, 07:02 PM

I'm not very familiar with the 33's but it might be a set screw for the lock cylinder.If so, it is recessed in the hole in the door.

Bruce Lancaster · 11-30-2015, 08:06 PM

My thought too! Peer into the hole with a good flashlight. I think you will see a headless setscrew with a slot for straight blade screwdriver. It might also have been replaced with an allen headed one as used by Ford later on...both are 10-32.
Try moving it a bit and squirt on some oil, so it doesn't seize up.

FrankWest · 11-30-2015, 08:30 PM

I think you may be right!
Just looked at the other door and that hole is without a screw too!
Strange the hole is recessed like to make a screw head semi flat against the side panel?

FrankWest · 11-30-2015, 08:42 PM

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This looks like the screw That is above the missing one.
http://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_me...kup-truck.html

Strange, but the screw above the missing one/whatever was partially screwed out??
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V12Bill · 11-30-2015, 08:47 PM

I think that the missing screw is a screw that holds the latch assembly to the door. It appears to be a slotted oval head 10-32 X 1/2 or maybe a 1/4 - 20 by 1/2. You can measure the surviving screw to check for size.

FrankWest · 11-30-2015, 08:51 PM

I think what we need is picture of another 1933/1933 door to see if they have two screws

Tinker · 11-30-2015, 09:00 PM

Did they have locks on both doors in 33?

Might be different but not what I would say is the right lock screw. Bruce distribed it right.

I'd call Roy and check if he has them available.

FrankWest · 11-30-2015, 09:03 PM

Here is a photo of the door edge on another 33 car. Hard to see but it looks like there is something in both holes, shinny...a screw perhaps. I'm convinced there has to be a screw on either side of the lock! If not. I'll eat my Ford adjustable wrench!
Events like this make you appreciate how long ago this thing was made...It is almost like archaeology. Fun though, no rush..I'm not driving the car to Chicago tonight!

FrankWest · 11-30-2015, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinker

Did they have locks on both doors in 33?

Might be different but not what I would say is the right lock screw. Bruce distribed it right.

I'd call Roy and check if he has them available.

Just noticed that they only have a keyed lock on the passenger side!!
Strange...Never noticed that before...Never had an occasion to lock the car.
Why would the lock be on the passengers and not the drivers side.
I have an American left hand drive car...
Where is Rod Serling....This must be the Twilight zone.

Tinker · 11-30-2015, 09:15 PM

Pass side... So you could lock the car and not get run over in traffic

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fourfords · 11-30-2015, 09:25 PM

I think the reason they put the door lock on the passenger side only was because in 1933 only a small percentage of the roads were paved. So entering and exiting the car was on the passenger side where there was a porch or walkway or sidewalk. This (I believe) was especially needed to stay away from the dirty and muddy roads on the driver's side.

And yep, each door on my '33 has two screws plus a slightly larger hole on the passenger front door to access the lock. I put a metal hole plug in mine to help keep dust out.

Tinker · 11-30-2015, 09:25 PM

Henry probably saved a few bucks too.

ha

Good info four fords. Makes sense.

FrankWest · 11-30-2015, 09:31 PM

Maybe for courtesy, letting your guest in first then have them unlock the drivers side.
The front of the car is especially narrow, because the running board takes up a lot of width, easy for your guest to reach over and unlock your door. Funny stuff..Never thought of this before...It's great...It was another time and another age..seems even more remote now!

FrankWest · 11-30-2015, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fourfords

I think the reason they put the door lock on the passenger side only was because in 1933 only a small percentage of the roads were paved. So entering and exiting the car was on the passenger side where there was a porch or walkway or sidewalk. This (I believe) was especially needed to stay away from the dirty and muddy roads on the driver's side.

And yep, each door on my '33 has two screws plus a slightly larger hole on the passenger front door to access the lock. I put a metal hole plug in mine to help keep dust out.

Thanks...For your help...
These cars are great! I love them..They are truly from the distant past...It is wonderful. I love the clang of the metal doors and hood. It has an ancient feel to it...Not plastic like our cars today

Jay in Mass · 11-30-2015, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankWest

Just noticed that they only have a keyed lock on the left hand side!!
Strange...Never noticed that before...Never had an occasion to lock the car.
Why would the lock be on the left side and not the drivers side.
I have an American left hand drive car...
Where is Rod Serling....This must be the Twilight zone.

Yes you need another screw.
FWIW The left side is the driver side and, the right side is the passenger side.
This applies no matter where you are standing.

FrankWest · 11-30-2015, 09:43 PM

any know what those screws are called? are these
Dovetail Screws?

FrankWest · 11-30-2015, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay in Mass

Yes you need another screw.
FWIW The left side is the driver side and, the right side is the passenger side.
This applies no matter where you are standing.

My mistake I should have read keyed lock passenger side, typed so fast was thinking one thing and typing another thing....Getting to old.

Terry,OH · 12-01-2015, 07:15 AM

10-32 X 1/4", oval head, slotted screw in S-2 (Raven finish). I believe it should have a external tooth countersunk lock washer 34952-S2. But it will work without the washer maybe use a small drop of locktite.
The dovetail is the chrome or bright nickel device below the hole missing the screw. The dovetail has a different screw.

11-30-2015, 06:26 PM	#2
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Missing Door Screw Not sure of the name, about everyone has them I would think. I would check with the bolt guy, Roy Nacewicz .

11-30-2015, 07:02 PM	#3
Willit Stop Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Eureka Calif. Posts: 969	Re: Missing Door Screw I'm not very familiar with the 33's but it might be a set screw for the lock cylinder.If so, it is recessed in the hole in the door.

11-30-2015, 08:06 PM	#4
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Missing Door Screw My thought too! Peer into the hole with a good flashlight. I think you will see a headless setscrew with a slot for straight blade screwdriver. It might also have been replaced with an allen headed one as used by Ford later on...both are 10-32. Try moving it a bit and squirt on some oil, so it doesn't seize up.

11-30-2015, 08:30 PM	#5
FrankWest Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,005	Re: Missing Door Screw I think you may be right! Just looked at the other door and that hole is without a screw too! Strange the hole is recessed like to make a screw head semi flat against the side panel?

11-30-2015, 08:47 PM	#7
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Re: Missing Door Screw I think that the missing screw is a screw that holds the latch assembly to the door. It appears to be a slotted oval head 10-32 X 1/2 or maybe a 1/4 - 20 by 1/2. You can measure the surviving screw to check for size.

11-30-2015, 08:51 PM	#8
FrankWest Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,005	Re: Missing Door Screw I think what we need is picture of another 1933/1933 door to see if they have two screws

11-30-2015, 09:00 PM	#9
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Missing Door Screw Did they have locks on both doors in 33? Might be different but not what I would say is the right lock screw. Bruce distribed it right. I'd call Roy and check if he has them available.

11-30-2015, 09:15 PM	#12
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Missing Door Screw Pass side... So you could lock the car and not get run over in traffic .

11-30-2015, 09:25 PM	#13
fourfords Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lake Elsinore, CA. Posts: 414	Re: Missing Door Screw I think the reason they put the door lock on the passenger side only was because in 1933 only a small percentage of the roads were paved. So entering and exiting the car was on the passenger side where there was a porch or walkway or sidewalk. This (I believe) was especially needed to stay away from the dirty and muddy roads on the driver's side. And yep, each door on my '33 has two screws plus a slightly larger hole on the passenger front door to access the lock. I put a metal hole plug in mine to help keep dust out.

11-30-2015, 09:25 PM	#14
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Missing Door Screw Henry probably saved a few bucks too. ha Good info four fords. Makes sense.

11-30-2015, 09:31 PM	#15
FrankWest Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,005	Re: Missing Door Screw Maybe for courtesy, letting your guest in first then have them unlock the drivers side. The front of the car is especially narrow, because the running board takes up a lot of width, easy for your guest to reach over and unlock your door. Funny stuff..Never thought of this before...It's great...It was another time and another age..seems even more remote now! Last edited by FrankWest; 11-30-2015 at 09:43 PM.

11-30-2015, 09:43 PM	#18
FrankWest Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,005	Re: Missing Door Screw any know what those screws are called? are these Dovetail Screws?

12-01-2015, 07:15 AM	#20
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: Missing Door Screw 10-32 X 1/4", oval head, slotted screw in S-2 (Raven finish). I believe it should have a external tooth countersunk lock washer 34952-S2. But it will work without the washer maybe use a small drop of locktite. The dovetail is the chrome or bright nickel device below the hole missing the screw. The dovetail has a different screw.