Need thoughts...what color is this?

[krzewinskibe]

Working on my 1929 Tudor and trying to figure out exactly what color it originally was.

it was repainted some god awful blue at some point in its life, but I found the original color under the carpet which I think should be lower body color. I *think* its Bonnie Grey, however according to the model A Ford Paint and Finish Guide, they ceased using that color in April 1929. This car's serial number (matching frame and engine) indicate an Oct 1929 car.

The corresponding upper body color for Bonnie Grey is supposed to be Chelsea Blue which is very greenish per the paint and finish guide.

Below are pics of the cross brace, an area I sanded in the lower body and what appears to be OEM upper body colors in areas that I sanded on the upper back and the belt.

Can anyone confirm this? Especially since it appears to contradict what is in the paint and finish guide.

Thanks!

floor cross brace:


Here is a section of the lower body I sanded through the blue and some other areas where the blue repaint peeled:


Here is the upper back sand through:


And the belt

[krzewinskibe]

According to the book, after April 1929 used the following lower/upper color combos:

vagabond green/rock moss green
rose beige/seal brown
andalusite blue/black
mountain brown/thorne brown
thorne brown/black

none of those make sense with the evidence.

[Tom Wesenberg]

I bought some original purchase orders from a dealership in New York, and a couple have colors listed that were supposed to have been dropped half a year earlier.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

I bought some original purchase orders from a dealership in New York, and a couple have colors listed that were supposed to have been dropped half a year earlier.

Did you send copies the standards committee?

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

Did you send copies the standards committee?

No, but they were posted on Fordbarn and Marco and others saw them.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

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Krze,
Sounds as though you are doing a High Points car, if so, my HAT'S OFF to you!
Bill Semioriginal

[krzewinskibe]

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Krze,
Sounds as though you are doing a High Points car, if so, my HAT'S OFF to you!
Bill Semioriginal

nah...not high points...but looking to take it as close as I can within reason.

[Stew Masche]

Any trace of original paint under the gas tank? If so, polish it a little, and compare to the refinish guide. Found the original color this way on a 29 Tudor that had been brush painted black many times.

[Barber31]

Krzwinskie, if you're curious to see what you color combination looks like, there is a 29 Tudor listed on the Austin, Texas craigslist. It has the same combo as yours but doesn't give the name of the colors. Maybe you could contact them to ask if they know the month it was built and if it was original colors.

[wrndln]

The body crossmember in the first picture looks like Bonnie Gray. I painted my 29 phaeton Bonnie Gray and it looks the same. The secondary color used with Bonnie Gray is Chelsea Blue and used on the raised areas.
Rusty Nelson

[Mike V. Florida]

Look here;

http://www.autocolorlibrary.com/acl_files/ford1929.html

[pgerhardt]

My 29 Tudor is also an April car and the body and belt colors look like vagabond and rock moss green to me. Here are some pictures of mine so you can see what it would look like if you go with those colors.

[mshmodela]

Originally Posted by pgerhardt

My 29 Tudor is also an April car and the body and belt colors look like vagabond and rock moss green to me. Here are some pictures of mine so you can see what it would look like if you go with those colors.

BEAUTIFUL Color and car!

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

On race cars, GREEN used to be considered BAD LUCK!
Bill Blue

[pgerhardt]

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

On race cars, GREEN used to be considered BAD LUCK!
Bill Blue

"British Racing Green"?

[ian Simpson]

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

On race cars, GREEN used to be considered BAD LUCK!
Bill Blue

Except for British Racing Green.

Whoops - too late

[Gary Karr]

krzewinskibe, I agree with Rusty in that it looks like Bonnie Gray to me. Here is a picture of my early Feb '29 Tudor in those colors.

[pgerhardt]

Originally Posted by Gary Karr

krzewinskibe, I agree with Rusty in that it looks like Bonnie Gray to me. Here is a picture of my early Feb '29 Tudor in those colors.

I did some work in Photoshop to compare the colors. The body color (cross member) could be Bonnie Gray (but is a little too blue). but the belt line color is definitely Rock Moss Green. If you could sand a bit more of the body preserving the green. Then just before taking another picture, wipe the area with a damp cloth. that would give us something more to work with.

[krzewinskibe]

Originally Posted by pgerhardt

I did some work in Photoshop to compare the colors. The body color (cross member) could be Bonnie Gray (but is a little too blue). but the belt line color is definitely Rock Moss Green. If you could sand a bit more of the body preserving the green. Then just before taking another picture, wipe the area with a damp cloth. that would give us something more to work with.

wouldn't say definitely rock moss....check it against Chelsea blue...it looked pretty spot on to the chip in my ford paint guide...

[krzewinskibe]

Originally Posted by Gary Karr

krzewinskibe, I agree with Rusty in that it looks like Bonnie Gray to me. Here is a picture of my early Feb '29 Tudor in those colors.

I wetsanded and polished one of the cross bars....its pretty darn close to your car's color...

Wife and I decided to go with bonnie gray. I'm going to cover an area of the polished cross bar with painters tape to leave a trace of the OEM color under the carpet for comparison when done