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Old 05-21-2020, 03:32 PM   #1
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Default Stainless steel Fords going to auction

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Maybe if a couple of thousand of us pool our stimulus checks.
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Maybe if a couple of thousand of us pool our stimulus checks.

What stimulus check???
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Well, now we know who's still making over $75,000 a year.
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Unfortunately, the stainless '36 Fords had carbon steel floors that went away just like the floors in all the other '36 Fords.

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I can't wait to see how much they will sell for!!
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The Early Ford V-8 Foundation has one of the 36's on display at it's Auburn , Indiana museum.
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Old 05-21-2020, 07:36 PM   #7
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Well, now we know who's still making over $75,000 a year.

…...or didn't file returns for 2018 or 2019. OR, the paper check just hasn't shown-up yet. It is said that many paper checks will still be showing-up in July. DD
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I can't wait to see how much they will sell for!!

With the economy in shambles due to the pandemic, they probably won't bring as much as they would have earlier, say January.
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With the economy in shambles due to the pandemic, they probably won't bring as much as they would have earlier, say January.

Folks dealing in that caliber of car and the extreme monetary values associated with such don't fall under the same rules as mere mortals that have to watch their budgets out of necessity for any possible shortcomings of funds if they suddenly find themselves without a weekly paycheck. DD
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At least these have what appears to be their original finish unlike the garish over-polished '36 at the Foundation Museum.
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At least these have what appears to be their original finish unlike the garish over-polished '36 at the Foundation Museum.

Would this be the one, David? DD


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That's not much these days!
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Yes, with the vanity license plate of the culprit (Leo Gephart).
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You have to get a check first, I haven't got one yet, My wife get one, and so did my son and family but not me.
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Jay Leno will step up, I bet.
Here's an article on Leo Gephart

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Yes, with the vanity license plate of the culprit (Leo Gephart).
It's so nice to see these three cars coming out of hiding.

You can see a similar triplet at the Crawford Museum in Cleveland. I went there in 2018 and was happy to see them, but their '36 has issues (spider caps passenger/stock caps driver, light switch in on position). It's interior is just like I like them though, pretty well used. (Shout-out for JM35's shorts in the reflection.)

These auction cars are from the company Allegheny Ludlum from what I heard... Here's an article on the cars from 2008. https://www.hemmings.com/stories/200...ess-steel-cars

The one at the Foundation Museum is problematic to me. If you accept the explanation the polishing was necessary for the body to be restored. My dad told me stories of judging the polished car in 2008 and he commented about pressure on the team to get on board of this restoration.

Nevertheless, does the Museum's car tick the box for uber cool? Yes.

We got to see one (maybe a third?, really my first from 2011) with original finish in Saratoga Springs for the meet Frank Miller's crew put on. It was in the gorgeous Saratoga Springs Automobile Museum. Epic venue, epic tours, top notch event! That one plus the one from Cleveland are the only two brushed ones I've encountered.





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Old 05-21-2020, 11:05 PM   #17
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Anyone with the slightest exposure to working with stainless steel knows that argument to be pure B.S. and self serving. A satin finish post repair is as easy to achieve, if not easier, than a highly polished finish. How about an honest "I wanted it that way"?
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A little perspective from 19Fordy's linked article...

“Leo Gephart, my father Russ Jackson and Tom Barrett worked together to develop the blueprint for the collector car auction as we know it today,” said Craig Jackson, chairman and chief executive of the company that carries his family’s name. “I grew up with Leo. He was an innovator and a visionary whose legacy will remain for years to come. He will be missed.” [Bold added by me.]

I also want to point out that Mr. Floyd, who donated the polished car, has given us a fabulous toy store in the form of a whole museum wing full of pretty much every flavor of '36 Ford you can round up.
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I saw the SS '36 at the Early V-8 museum last year, it was neat!

If I recall it weighed like 500 pounds more than a regular '36 Ford just because of the stainless steel
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Back when the DeLorean came out, there was a dealership in Houston. They had two that were painted. The story was that there was a shop in Houston that would paint them for around $2000. I remember the one painted bright red, but I do not remember what color the other one was painted.
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There were the 3 on Display at the 1973 V 8 ford Club Nation Meet! Displayed in front of the Dearbon Inn as I remember. kerk
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Here are some photos taken back in Pittsburgh around 1980 when the Pittsburgh Regional Group did a semi-restoration on one of Allegheny Ludlum's Stainless 36 Fords. The car was really worn out from its years of constant driving and abuse at the hands of the public.
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You are correct, Sir. ALL three of the pictured SS Ford Product were there AND as an aside, My father, brother and I drove up from Florida as it was our FIRST V8 Meet attended (me 8 year old) but we did not bring a car to show. We were standing outside the gate of the Ford test track on the day the club got to drive around and tour the track. Thankfully and generously a fellow with a 36 Roadster was by himself and had to stop by us for the car to file in and my dad asked IF we could tag along.....He aid yes and we piled into the roadster, my brother an me in the rumble seat......What a thrill. Long story short I can't remember which but either the SS Lincoln or the SS T-Bird followed us in line around the test track!!! That was back when the concours show was IN Greenfield Village sort of back empty field... WAY cooler then than now!!!! IT now seems or feels (at least) that Ford Motor Company could care less about us having our Grand National in Dearborn!!!


AND DavidR I 100% agree with ALL you have posted, fixing that car without having to "polish" it would have been a breeze!!!!
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Neat photos; are you in the second one or behind the camera?
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I believe these three cars are from the Crawford. About a year ago I saw the employees working to get the Bird back running and asked about the 36. They told me they lacked parts and directions were to get the bird running, since it was going to a show. I wrote an email to the director of the Crawford offering any parts I have to get the 36 running. There was no response, not even a thanks.
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Does anyone know IF there were more than one of the 60 T-Bird & 67 Lincoln???? Or is that it, just one of each???
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Anyone with the slightest exposure to working with stainless steel knows that argument to be pure B.S. and self serving. A satin finish post repair is as easy to achieve, if not easier, than a highly polished finish. How about an honest "I wanted it that way"?
Dave, you are correct. Much easier to do the original finish on the stainless. Stainless was never meant to look like chrome.
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Does anyone know of a fellow named "Boots" Goyer, an old timer who lived in FL and was an avid Ford collector? I met him in the 1980's and rumor has it that he owned a stainless steel Ford many, many years ago. I recall his garage was packed with old Ford parts. A very feisty individual.
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David G. I was not there the day the photos were taken. I remember working on the Ford though. I was in Jon Anderson's garage for several days. It was a mess. We rewired it, replaced the fuel pump/generator/carburetor and other things with period correct items. I believe we even replaced the seal beams with original bulb/lens/reflectors. The regular steel floor, door internals and frame were not stainless and typical of a 45 year floor.
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Don: Jon Anderson looked a bit younger in your photo. Was the SS 36 you worked on an early or mid year or late year model?
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Boots did not have a stainless Ford when I knew him about that time.
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At least these have what appears to be their original finish unlike the garish over-polished '36 at the Foundation Museum.
I was just signing on to this thread to leave a message identical to yours.
The sedan in the Foundation Museum is interesting for certain. Too bad it was ruined (to history) with the polishing.
Yet another person that did not understand what "restore" means.
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Does anyone know IF there were more than one of the 60 T-Bird & 67 Lincoln???? Or is that it, just one of each???
The article says 11 cars total, 6 '36's, 2 Tbirds, 3 Lincolns.
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Terry, I don't remember whether the car was early, mid, or late 36. I'm guessing mid year. They started to fabricate the cars in early 36, but ran into so much trouble working with the stainless that it took quite a while to complete.
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