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Old 12-14-2017, 03:12 AM   #1
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Default Why does my rear hub have two bearings ?

Hi,

Last week, I got my first A, till now I always drove my T.

I decided to check my brakes before driving. I removed all brake parts of one rear wheel. I have seen now, there are two bearings in the hub with a sealing. Why does anybody make this ? Is this a problem ? Is it better, if I replace it with a new one ?

I hope, you can see this pictures:
( I will also try to add the pictures as Attachements)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KzF...ew?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pt-...ew?usp=sharing

Thanks for help

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Old 12-14-2017, 03:54 AM   #2
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It sure doesn't look like my '29 rear hub at all. In fact, yours appears to have 4 lug bolts and a threaded outer housing for the outer part of the hub
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Old 12-14-2017, 04:25 AM   #3
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What the heck is that?
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Old 12-14-2017, 04:26 AM   #4
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It's a "Shay", replica car. Not one part is the same as an original Model A Ford.
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:05 AM   #5
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excuse me, maybe the photo is not very clearly, it has 5 lug bolts (not 4)
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:10 AM   #6
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It's a "Shay", replica car. Not one part is the same as an original Model A Ford.
Oh shit, this would be very bad for me
I invested my money in a replica ?
But the engine has a engine number below one million, so it's from december 1929.

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Old 12-14-2017, 05:13 AM   #7
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If 5 lug, not Pinto and not Shay. I'm stumped.
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Old 12-14-2017, 06:54 AM   #8
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Does it have a four cylinder flat head? Does it have mechanical brakes? Is it missing a fuel pump? Does it have a blue Ford oval on the radiator? It doesn't look like any Model A axle that I've seen. Snao us some pictures, please.
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Old 12-14-2017, 07:15 AM   #9
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How about a picture of your rear differential? We'll narrow it down from there. Someone may have just swapped for different hubs. If so, should be an easy fix. Fingers crossed.
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Old 12-14-2017, 07:37 AM   #10
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Here are some pictures of the car. For me it looks a A
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PjU...w?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tyo...w?usp=drivesdk

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Old 12-14-2017, 07:43 AM   #11
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Great looking Car! Looks like a 1931 Briggs fordor. Great choice for your first A. Room for friends on those ice cream runs. . Jeff
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:08 AM   #12
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The other parts looks for me Ok. But I am new in As, I only know my T

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Old 12-14-2017, 08:29 AM   #13
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Something is way off here.

The brake drum is supposed to be swedged on.
Why is it threaded on the end of the bub?
My take is the bearings might not be good for the original axle. They are smaller and narrower reducing the contact area. This can allow for brinelling (denting) of the metal race on the original axle, but it may be they changed that to a pressed on hardened larger diameter race.

The bearings should have wheel bearing grease on them. If you did not clean the grease off then you need to look close for damage to the races and the rollers.

You really need to do a good look at the drums and the shoes. How are the contact patches on the shoes?
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:25 AM   #14
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The front shoes are new and relined, but the rear shoes looks old and maybe never have been relined. I will have to reline them.
For me, the rear hub looks almost like a T hub, but my T has other diameters
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Someone did something weird with that hub. It looks like an A hub with the lugs welded to the hub. Not sure if they had some kind of better idea with that thread part on the end. If all else looks A new hubs and drums would be the way to go. Post a picture of the drum. Unless it is thicker the lug nuts might not be tightening up on the wheel enough.
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What country are you in?
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:02 AM   #17
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Hi,
Here is a photo of my rear drum..
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rax...w?usp=drivesdk
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:03 AM   #18
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I am living in switzerland.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:37 AM   #19
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Looks like the Rear Axle Assembly is from something other than a Ford Model A to me.
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Old 12-14-2017, 11:34 AM   #20
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In a service bulletin from april 1931? I found, that they had 2 bearings for the truck rear axle instead of one.
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