The Ford Barn

Bored&Stroked · 07-01-2017, 09:41 AM

Thought I'd post this here . . . even though it has nothing to do with Fords!

XP = Nightmare: Actually you should really consider getting off of XP - as it is a 'hackers dream' as far as virus', etc.. This is the reason why Europe and 3rd World countries get hit really hard with new global virus releases (as they're not up to date in many cases).

Recommendation: Try to get to Window 10 with all the latest security patches, set it up for auto-updates and get a GOOD virus protection package like 'Bit Defender'. You need to do everything possible to protect yourself - as you're obviously on the Internet, or you wouldn't be reading this!

If Stuck on XP: Also, Microsoft stopped updates for XP in 2014, but recently released a set of emergency updates to help prevent some of the globally destructive 'ransomware' attacks for infecting XP. At the very least - apply these updates.

Willit Stop · 07-01-2017, 10:02 AM

Firefox is ending support for Windows Vista as well.
I was told that my old computer can't handle Windows 10.So...guess who has to buy a new computer?

petehoovie · 07-01-2017, 10:04 AM

Windows 7 is still being supported....

redmodelt · 07-01-2017, 10:12 AM

Willit Stop, you, me and a heck of a lot of other people!

Jeff/Illinois · 07-01-2017, 10:35 AM

Had Windows XP and loved it. Bought a new computer several years ago w/ Windows 10 ( other one was getting old anyway) because they wouldn't support XP anymore, and we like Windows 10 just fine.

CAUTION: Do not buy AVG for your security, they are a great outfit had them for years, but every time Windows 10 does an upgrade AVG does not recognize it and locks up your computer. Had this happen four times it's a pain. We un-installed Anti Virus Guard (AVG) at the computer guy's high recommendation.

We're now using Windows Defender that comes free w/ Windows 10, works GREAT and is administered by Microsoft so upgrades are problem free.

Jack E/NJ · 07-01-2017, 11:15 AM

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>>>is administered by Microsoft so upgrades are problem free.>>>

Another example of an oxymoron. 8^) Jack E/Nj

rotorwrench · 07-01-2017, 12:01 PM

MS quit supporting XP a long time ago and just quit supporting Vista a few months ago. They are vulnerable but if you don't have anything on it worth stealing or losing then it's really not an issue. Back the good stuff up on an external hard drive and your good to go.

dwaynec · 07-01-2017, 12:14 PM

For those of you that have a computer that can't handle windows 10 and don't want to spend the spare cash on a new one, you might want to consider one of the Linux distributions. Ubuntu/kubuntu or fedora are very good and easy to setup and use.

Ronnie · 07-01-2017, 12:16 PM

Xp is 16 years old it is time to move on. Win 7 will get extended support till 2020

R

JSeery · 07-01-2017, 12:40 PM

I wasn't a fan of Windows10 at first, but after I figured out how to configure it, it is just about the same format.

redmodelt · 07-01-2017, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwaynec

For those of you that have a computer that can't handle windows 10 and don't want to spend the spare cash on a new one, you might want to consider one of the Linux distributions. Ubuntu/kubuntu or fedora are very good and easy to setup and use.

I have thought along that line re Linux.
The spare cash, you hit that right on the nose. Many of us out there have "used" computers as it is because that's what we could afford, also some don't like change till it forced on us.
Ah heck I still use a flip phone and buy my air time in 300 min. blocks.

Karl Wescott · 07-01-2017, 03:03 PM

As an option to Linux, some of the major office stores (Staples, Office Depot, Office Max, etc) have Win10 refurbished computers less than the price of Win10 upgrade software.

corvette8n · 07-01-2017, 04:01 PM

I've put Ubuntu on a lot of friends old PC's, most of them only want to cruise the Internet and write an occasional letter ( I load Libre office for them). When I go on vacation, I take a Raspberry Pi 3 and hook it to the large screen TV in the motels I stay at, I have a little portabable Bluetooth keyboard with mouse,works great to read the Fordbarn from across the room.

cas3 · 07-01-2017, 04:20 PM

i'm on a 10 year old mac, 300 bucks on craigslist, works fine, never had a problem since i got rid of microsoft about 7 years ago

john in illinois · 07-01-2017, 04:31 PM

I wanted to switch from windows and bought a mini mac apple computer with no screen. Very affordable and I used my old monitor and mouse. I have gotten used to it and like it.

John

tubman · 07-01-2017, 05:00 PM

My computer crashed two years ago, so I looked around for the best deal I could find. Since my accessories (screen, keyboard, printer, mouse, and speakers) were still good. I bought a refurbished Dell I found on Amazon for $115. It had a better processor and twice the memory of the one I replaced. It was literally cheaper than adding memory to what I had. After two years, it's still running strong with no problems. Shortly after I bought it (it came with windows 7), I upgraded it to windows 10. I'm like a lot of people and hated it at first because the appearance was different; it seems they changed things for changes sake alone. After I got used to it, I like it fine. Also, I agree with the others about "Windows Defender". I don't think it's necessary to running thing else because Defender is so good. Microsoft finally got something right. It is so well integrated that you don't even know it's there, I bring it up to check on it once and a while, and see it has been busy updating and scanning all along, doing it's job.

rotorwrench · 07-01-2017, 06:25 PM

I like the windows 7 due to the simplicity of it for older non touch screen puters. It took me a while to figure out all the changes to W10 but it solved a lot of the issues that combined touch screen capability had on the W8 so that it does OK with non touch screen systems.

I always have greasy fingers so the touch screen just wasn't going to work for me. My key board looks bad enough as it is. I wouldn't be able to see anything on a touch screen if I used that feature very much.

cas3 · 07-01-2017, 06:30 PM

ha ha!, yeah, people get a funny look on they're face when they look at my keyboard too!

edhd58 · 07-01-2017, 06:46 PM

I have window Vista, but use Norton Symantec for the firewall an all the other necessary protection.
I just got an email from Norton Security about the latest virus, Petya, and according to them they have me covered because I have incoming emails scanned for viruses also. My employer got hit last week, someone in one of the front offices opened an infected email.

fortyonerag · 07-01-2017, 06:52 PM

I have some Mac's which seem to work OK. On my windows machine I run Win10 and protect with Hitman Pro + Super Anti Spyware + Anti malware.

If you ever get hit with some nasties (don't ask), slide over to bleepingcomputer.com. I'm not affiliated in any way, but those guys love to fix problems and looked after me well.

07-01-2017, 09:41 AM	#1
Bored&Stroked Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 5,064	Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack Thought I'd post this here . . . even though it has nothing to do with Fords! XP = Nightmare: Actually you should really consider getting off of XP - as it is a 'hackers dream' as far as virus', etc.. This is the reason why Europe and 3rd World countries get hit really hard with new global virus releases (as they're not up to date in many cases). Recommendation: Try to get to Window 10 with all the latest security patches, set it up for auto-updates and get a GOOD virus protection package like 'Bit Defender'. You need to do everything possible to protect yourself - as you're obviously on the Internet, or you wouldn't be reading this! If Stuck on XP: Also, Microsoft stopped updates for XP in 2014, but recently released a set of emergency updates to help prevent some of the globally destructive 'ransomware' attacks for infecting XP. At the very least - apply these updates.

07-01-2017, 10:02 AM	#2
Willit Stop Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Eureka Calif. Posts: 969	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack Firefox is ending support for Windows Vista as well. I was told that my old computer can't handle Windows 10.So...guess who has to buy a new computer?

07-01-2017, 10:04 AM	#3
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,125	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack Windows 7 is still being supported.... __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

07-01-2017, 10:12 AM	#4
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,340	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack Willit Stop, you, me and a heck of a lot of other people! __________________ I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!

07-01-2017, 10:35 AM	#5
Jeff/Illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,789	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack Had Windows XP and loved it. Bought a new computer several years ago w/ Windows 10 ( other one was getting old anyway) because they wouldn't support XP anymore, and we like Windows 10 just fine. CAUTION: Do not buy AVG for your security, they are a great outfit had them for years, but every time Windows 10 does an upgrade AVG does not recognize it and locks up your computer. Had this happen four times it's a pain. We un-installed Anti Virus Guard (AVG) at the computer guy's high recommendation. We're now using Windows Defender that comes free w/ Windows 10, works GREAT and is administered by Microsoft so upgrades are problem free.

07-01-2017, 11:15 AM	#6
Jack E/NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,173	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) >>>is administered by Microsoft so upgrades are problem free.>>> Another example of an oxymoron. 8^) Jack E/Nj

07-01-2017, 12:01 PM	#7
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,426	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack MS quit supporting XP a long time ago and just quit supporting Vista a few months ago. They are vulnerable but if you don't have anything on it worth stealing or losing then it's really not an issue. Back the good stuff up on an external hard drive and your good to go.

07-01-2017, 12:14 PM	#8
dwaynec Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Davenport, IA Posts: 169	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack For those of you that have a computer that can't handle windows 10 and don't want to spend the spare cash on a new one, you might want to consider one of the Linux distributions. Ubuntu/kubuntu or fedora are very good and easy to setup and use. __________________ Dwayne

07-01-2017, 12:16 PM	#9
Ronnie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Where it snows Posts: 2,058	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack Xp is 16 years old it is time to move on. Win 7 will get extended support till 2020 R

07-01-2017, 12:40 PM	#10
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack I wasn't a fan of Windows10 at first, but after I figured out how to configure it, it is just about the same format.

07-01-2017, 03:03 PM	#12
Karl Wescott Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,287	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack As an option to Linux, some of the major office stores (Staples, Office Depot, Office Max, etc) have Win10 refurbished computers less than the price of Win10 upgrade software.

07-01-2017, 04:01 PM	#13
corvette8n Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: 36 miles north of Albany NY Posts: 2,950	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack I've put Ubuntu on a lot of friends old PC's, most of them only want to cruise the Internet and write an occasional letter ( I load Libre office for them). When I go on vacation, I take a Raspberry Pi 3 and hook it to the large screen TV in the motels I stay at, I have a little portabable Bluetooth keyboard with mouse,works great to read the Fordbarn from across the room.

07-01-2017, 04:20 PM	#14
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,572	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack i'm on a 10 year old mac, 300 bucks on craigslist, works fine, never had a problem since i got rid of microsoft about 7 years ago

07-01-2017, 04:31 PM	#15
john in illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,184	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack I wanted to switch from windows and bought a mini mac apple computer with no screen. Very affordable and I used my old monitor and mouse. I have gotten used to it and like it. John

07-01-2017, 05:00 PM	#16
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,312	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack My computer crashed two years ago, so I looked around for the best deal I could find. Since my accessories (screen, keyboard, printer, mouse, and speakers) were still good. I bought a refurbished Dell I found on Amazon for $115. It had a better processor and twice the memory of the one I replaced. It was literally cheaper than adding memory to what I had. After two years, it's still running strong with no problems. Shortly after I bought it (it came with windows 7), I upgraded it to windows 10. I'm like a lot of people and hated it at first because the appearance was different; it seems they changed things for changes sake alone. After I got used to it, I like it fine. Also, I agree with the others about "Windows Defender". I don't think it's necessary to running thing else because Defender is so good. Microsoft finally got something right. It is so well integrated that you don't even know it's there, I bring it up to check on it once and a while, and see it has been busy updating and scanning all along, doing it's job.

07-01-2017, 06:25 PM	#17
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,426	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack I like the windows 7 due to the simplicity of it for older non touch screen puters. It took me a while to figure out all the changes to W10 but it solved a lot of the issues that combined touch screen capability had on the W8 so that it does OK with non touch screen systems. I always have greasy fingers so the touch screen just wasn't going to work for me. My key board looks bad enough as it is. I wouldn't be able to see anything on a touch screen if I used that feature very much.

07-01-2017, 06:30 PM	#18
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,572	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack ha ha!, yeah, people get a funny look on they're face when they look at my keyboard too!

07-01-2017, 06:46 PM	#19
edhd58 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Guston,ky Posts: 653	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack I have window Vista, but use Norton Symantec for the firewall an all the other necessary protection. I just got an email from Norton Security about the latest virus, Petya, and according to them they have me covered because I have incoming emails scanned for viruses also. My employer got hit last week, someone in one of the front offices opened an infected email.

07-01-2017, 06:52 PM	#20
fortyonerag Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 541	Re: Windows XP - Leaves Most Very Vulnerable to Attack I have some Mac's which seem to work OK. On my windows machine I run Win10 and protect with Hitman Pro + Super Anti Spyware + Anti malware. If you ever get hit with some nasties (don't ask), slide over to bleepingcomputer.com. I'm not affiliated in any way, but those guys love to fix problems and looked after me well.