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rfitzpatrick · 10-15-2018, 04:26 PM

OK, I've another issue -- have a Point Gap Setting Tool that I used to adjust my points on my Pickup -- and used this tool. The manual says the points are to be set at 18, after I used the Tool, I double checked my setting and found them at .35. took a measurment of the tool piece that you incert between the points and it was 35. If anyone else has this tool, could you verfiy and alert me of your readings, and if they are good -- plz tell me where you got your gap setting tool from -- I can not recall whom I got mine from, tho I've alerted Berts and asked for advise/assistance as I've often ordered parts from them.

Thanks

J Franklin · 10-15-2018, 04:34 PM

I use a feeler gauge, toss the tool!

quickchange · 10-15-2018, 04:39 PM

Sounds like a plug gap tool not points ,

rfitzpatrick · 10-15-2018, 04:51 PM

Berts: Part Number --- A-12198 Quick Point Gap Setting Tool

leo · 10-15-2018, 05:02 PM

The problem with this tool is it makes the assumption that all the possible variables are always the same and good so the one size that the tool measures for will always be correct.

160B · 10-15-2018, 05:36 PM

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dpson · 10-15-2018, 05:57 PM

Those point setting tools have been around for years for Fords and other makes and models and work well. The .35 thickness of the setting device takes into account the thickness of the ring that slides over the cam. It sounds like you make not have had the ring pushed all the way down on the cam, otherwise the gap with the ring removed and the points open on the high point of the cam should be around .18 +/-.

KGBnut · 10-15-2018, 05:58 PM

I don't use a feeler gauge. The standard thread for the adjustable part of the ignition points is 32 threads per inch. I put them on the high part of the cam, turn the adjuster in until the points just close (a powered test light helps), then turn it out 5/8 of a turn. That will put you right at 19 thousandths.

Ken

31a · 10-15-2018, 10:00 PM

I have used the point gap tool and find it works great for me no problems

daveymc29 · 10-15-2018, 10:38 PM

The "Ace" Inventor. I came up with this idea in my Austin Healey days and went to a tool maker to test his skill and see what he thought of the idea. He was quite sure it would work and with a little smile, told me to go to our local auto parts house and buy one there and we could try it on his car. So much for the wealth I was hoping would flow from the royalties on that one, So I went back to work for a living. Using my brain was way to slow.

Dick Steinkamp · 10-16-2018, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KGBnut

I don't use a feeler gauge. The standard thread for the adjustable part of the ignition points is 32 threads per inch. I put them on the high part of the cam, turn the adjuster in until the points just close (a powered test light helps), then turn it out 5/8 of a turn. That will put you right at 19 thousandths.

Ken

Great idea! Thanks, Ken.

jrelliott · 10-16-2018, 10:35 AM

In an emergency, you can use the ignition wire( wire from distributor to spark plug) to set the gap and it will run. Later use the feeler gage.

100IH · 10-16-2018, 12:08 PM

Fore those that use a feeler gauge, try to find the mini feeler gauge. About 1/4" wide and about 1 1/4 long. same as larger sets but just the blades needed for points and they are stiff and not so flexible. Because of the lighter weight, you can actually feel, even with the light spring pressure on the movable arm. Much better.

J Franklin · 10-16-2018, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrelliott

In an emergency, you can use the ignition wire( wire from distributor to spark plug) to set the gap and it will run. Later use the feeler gage.

I think I need a diagram for this one. In an emergency try a credit card.

PS I got it.

CarlG · 10-16-2018, 01:40 PM

“Back in the day” I would use a paper match book cover to set the points. Just not many of those around any more.

rfitzpatrick · 10-17-2018, 12:31 PM

Steve at Berts cleared up my problem I caused. You never use the Quick-Point Gap
Setting Tool (A-12198) without using the Thimble. Don't use the setting tool to re-check your points after the Thimble has been removed either -- as this was my 'problem' I created.
Steve was very patient with my questions --
Thanks

Benson · 10-18-2018, 01:51 PM

*&^%$

sphanna · 10-18-2018, 04:32 PM

RE: post # 8 : by KGBnut

Search " setting point gap without feeler gauge" on this forum and you will find another way to open your points to 20* but I think easier than estimating 5/8 of a turn.
I admit the there is way too much info in this post but use the info in the last half for another way to get the 5/8 turn.

Fred K-OR · 10-20-2018, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 160B

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This is a great tool. Works for this guy who needs something like this.

vernon · 10-20-2018, 09:43 PM

Using a feller gage close the points with the gage between them tight, then back off slow until the gage drops.
Vern

taffrail · 10-20-2018, 10:15 PM

Too lazy to dig a rusty gauge out of the tool box, use the spark plug strap.

10-15-2018, 04:26 PM	#1
rfitzpatrick Senior Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Coral Springs, Florida Posts: 551	Quick Point Gap Setting Tool OK, I've another issue -- have a Point Gap Setting Tool that I used to adjust my points on my Pickup -- and used this tool. The manual says the points are to be set at 18, after I used the Tool, I double checked my setting and found them at .35. took a measurment of the tool piece that you incert between the points and it was 35. If anyone else has this tool, could you verfiy and alert me of your readings, and if they are good -- plz tell me where you got your gap setting tool from -- I can not recall whom I got mine from, tho I've alerted Berts and asked for advise/assistance as I've often ordered parts from them. Thanks

10-15-2018, 04:34 PM	#2
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,959	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool I use a feeler gauge, toss the tool!

10-15-2018, 04:39 PM	#3
quickchange Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Nelson. New Zealand Posts: 2,009	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool Sounds like a plug gap tool not points ,

10-15-2018, 04:51 PM	#4
rfitzpatrick Senior Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Coral Springs, Florida Posts: 551	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool Berts: Part Number --- A-12198 Quick Point Gap Setting Tool

10-15-2018, 05:02 PM	#5
leo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 734	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool The problem with this tool is it makes the assumption that all the possible variables are always the same and good so the one size that the tool measures for will always be correct.

10-15-2018, 05:36 PM	#6
160B Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Port Orchard, WA Posts: 1,498	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) https://modelastore.com/index.php?ro...oduct_id=18562 __________________ 1931 160B & 1931 68B If you don't have time to do it right the 1st time, how do you have time to do it the 2nd time?

10-15-2018, 05:57 PM	#7
dpson Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Montpelier, VT Posts: 223	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool Those point setting tools have been around for years for Fords and other makes and models and work well. The .35 thickness of the setting device takes into account the thickness of the ring that slides over the cam. It sounds like you make not have had the ring pushed all the way down on the cam, otherwise the gap with the ring removed and the points open on the high point of the cam should be around .18 +/-.

10-15-2018, 05:58 PM	#8
KGBnut Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Southwestern Connecticut Posts: 931	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool I don't use a feeler gauge. The standard thread for the adjustable part of the ignition points is 32 threads per inch. I put them on the high part of the cam, turn the adjuster in until the points just close (a powered test light helps), then turn it out 5/8 of a turn. That will put you right at 19 thousandths. Ken __________________ Style beats speed any day, and with a lot fewer tickets.

10-15-2018, 10:00 PM	#9
31a Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: College Station, Tx Posts: 326	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool I have used the point gap tool and find it works great for me no problems

10-15-2018, 10:38 PM	#10
daveymc29 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Danville, CA Posts: 1,553	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool The "Ace" Inventor. I came up with this idea in my Austin Healey days and went to a tool maker to test his skill and see what he thought of the idea. He was quite sure it would work and with a little smile, told me to go to our local auto parts house and buy one there and we could try it on his car. So much for the wealth I was hoping would flow from the royalties on that one, So I went back to work for a living. Using my brain was way to slow.

10-16-2018, 10:35 AM	#12
jrelliott Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pine, AZ Posts: 794	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool In an emergency, you can use the ignition wire( wire from distributor to spark plug) to set the gap and it will run. Later use the feeler gage.

10-16-2018, 12:08 PM	#13
100IH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SW Idaho Posts: 970	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool Fore those that use a feeler gauge, try to find the mini feeler gauge. About 1/4" wide and about 1 1/4 long. same as larger sets but just the blades needed for points and they are stiff and not so flexible. Because of the lighter weight, you can actually feel, even with the light spring pressure on the movable arm. Much better.

10-16-2018, 01:40 PM	#15
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,115	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool “Back in the day” I would use a paper match book cover to set the points. Just not many of those around any more. __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club

10-17-2018, 12:31 PM	#16
rfitzpatrick Senior Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Coral Springs, Florida Posts: 551	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool Steve at Berts cleared up my problem I caused. You never use the Quick-Point Gap Setting Tool (A-12198) without using the Thimble. Don't use the setting tool to re-check your points after the Thimble has been removed either -- as this was my 'problem' I created. Steve was very patient with my questions -- Thanks

10-18-2018, 01:51 PM	#17
Benson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,594	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool &^%$ Last edited by Benson; 10-20-2018 at 11:11 PM.*

10-18-2018, 04:32 PM	#18
sphanna Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Polk City, Iowa Posts: 526	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool RE: post # 8 : by KGBnut Search " setting point gap without feeler gauge" on this forum and you will find another way to open your points to 20* but I think easier than estimating 5/8 of a turn. I admit the there is way too much info in this post but use the info in the last half for another way to get the 5/8 turn. __________________ Steve Hanna, Polk City, IA Last edited by sphanna; 10-18-2018 at 04:36 PM. Reason: clarify

10-20-2018, 09:43 PM	#20
vernon Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 21	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool Using a feller gage close the points with the gage between them tight, then back off slow until the gage drops. Vern

10-20-2018, 10:15 PM	#21
taffrail Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Hingham, MA Posts: 135	Re: Quick Point Gap Setting Tool Too lazy to dig a rusty gauge out of the tool box, use the spark plug strap.