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Doug 845 · 08-28-2016, 06:13 AM

I have to replace the motor mounts (looks like they melted?) and exhaust system, so I figured I'd drop the oil pan and clean the oil pump screen. It looks like a simple thing to do since I'm installing a new exhaust system anyway. Some posts on here say you have to pull the engine up a little with a cherry picker. Why? It looks like a simple drop.

Brendan · 08-28-2016, 10:46 AM

on a 36 pickup it is a major job, remove genarator , fan upper and lower rad hoses fuel pump stand, choke and throttle rods, unbolt motor mounts, dip stick tube unbolt wish bone and loosen up u bolts for front axle and pull wish bone down as far as you can get. i am sure i left out something , this job took me 4 hrs to do and about half the time to get back in. i would twink a a 34 is not much different then a 36, oh also you need to pick up the motor as far as you can get it

rjhink · 08-28-2016, 12:09 PM

I just had the oil pan off my '34 cabriolet, which should be similar if your '33 is a car rather than a truck. I didn't have to lift the motor. Jack up the front, put jack stands under the frame (up front near the bumper mounts) and lower the front axle as much as possible. Taking off the wheels can help get the axle lower.

Then, remove the starter as well as the radius arm ball-mount under the tranny. The lower half of the tranny-engine bolts need to be removed as well as one pan bolt near the starter that attaches the pan from above rather than below. Lowering the pan past the oil pump can be a hassle since there's not much space between the pump and the tranny, but lowering the rear of the radius rods helps. Then, to squeak the pan past the radius rods, you'll have to push them back up ... Unless you're doing this all on a lift.

Doug 845 · 09-11-2016, 07:03 AM

I will be doing this on a lift in my own garage. I'm taking my time and want to get the car ready for the road next spring. How do I clean the screen? Do I have to remove it from the pump?

Daryl Middlebrook · 09-11-2016, 08:13 AM

Soak the screen in a pan of gasoline. Take it outdoors and light it off. That process will burn the oil out of the carbon that is in the screen. Then blow the screen out with compressed air and re-install.

34billct · 09-12-2016, 07:19 PM

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The oil pump screen is available part no. B-6623 from suppliers as it is used on model A and 32-36 v8's

Capt Kirk · 09-12-2016, 07:31 PM

What are the symptoms of a dirty screen...low oil pressure? Do you have a reason to believe you're screen might be dirty? If so, you should clean it...if not, this seems like a lot of work to solve a problem that might not exist. Is the oil drain plug anywhere close to where the screen is? Could a person take the plug out and inspect the screen before going through all that work. HD sells a little fiber-optic camera inspection tool that can give a person a view inside cylinders and other restricted places. It's not that much and it's on my tool wish list.

VeryTangled · 09-12-2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Kirk

HD sells a little fiber-optic camera inspection tool...

I think that's not Harley but Harbor Freight. I want one, will see if it isn't already at the shop!

Capt Kirk · 09-12-2016, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VeryTangled

I think that's not Harley but Harbor Freight. I want one, will see if it isn't already at the shop!

I think Harbor Freight sells them too but I was talking about Home Depot. They also sell digital thermometers but I haven't pulled the trigger on either yet. A good thermometer from the Depot was around $75 and I think the fiber optic camera was a bit over $100. Might be getting time for me to put my Christmas list together!!

Capt Kirk · 09-12-2016, 08:35 PM

They have several but here's one. I am not...and never will be affiliated with HD!

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee...3-20/203361193

Doug 845 · 09-13-2016, 11:47 AM

I never took the pan off the car and since I am replacing the entire exhaust system - I figured it would be a good time to pull the pan while I have it up on a lift. I am trying to rule out any possible problems that might arise when I put it on the road next year. I've owned this car for 30 years and have never took it off. I think its time to have a peek.

08-28-2016, 06:13 AM	#1
Doug 845 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Fishkill, NY Posts: 178	1933 V8 Oil Pan Removal I have to replace the motor mounts (looks like they melted?) and exhaust system, so I figured I'd drop the oil pan and clean the oil pump screen. It looks like a simple thing to do since I'm installing a new exhaust system anyway. Some posts on here say you have to pull the engine up a little with a cherry picker. Why? It looks like a simple drop.

08-28-2016, 10:46 AM	#2
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: 1933 V8 Oil Pan Removal on a 36 pickup it is a major job, remove genarator , fan upper and lower rad hoses fuel pump stand, choke and throttle rods, unbolt motor mounts, dip stick tube unbolt wish bone and loosen up u bolts for front axle and pull wish bone down as far as you can get. i am sure i left out something , this job took me 4 hrs to do and about half the time to get back in. i would twink a a 34 is not much different then a 36, oh also you need to pick up the motor as far as you can get it __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

08-28-2016, 12:09 PM	#3
rjhink Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Yorktown, Virginia Posts: 12	Re: 1933 V8 Oil Pan Removal I just had the oil pan off my '34 cabriolet, which should be similar if your '33 is a car rather than a truck. I didn't have to lift the motor. Jack up the front, put jack stands under the frame (up front near the bumper mounts) and lower the front axle as much as possible. Taking off the wheels can help get the axle lower. Then, remove the starter as well as the radius arm ball-mount under the tranny. The lower half of the tranny-engine bolts need to be removed as well as one pan bolt near the starter that attaches the pan from above rather than below. Lowering the pan past the oil pump can be a hassle since there's not much space between the pump and the tranny, but lowering the rear of the radius rods helps. Then, to squeak the pan past the radius rods, you'll have to push them back up ... Unless you're doing this all on a lift.

09-11-2016, 07:03 AM	#4
Doug 845 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Fishkill, NY Posts: 178	Re: 1933 V8 Oil Pan Removal I will be doing this on a lift in my own garage. I'm taking my time and want to get the car ready for the road next spring. How do I clean the screen? Do I have to remove it from the pump?

09-11-2016, 08:13 AM	#5
Daryl Middlebrook Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Penn Yan, NY Posts: 90	Re: 1933 V8 Oil Pan Removal Soak the screen in a pan of gasoline. Take it outdoors and light it off. That process will burn the oil out of the carbon that is in the screen. Then blow the screen out with compressed air and re-install.

09-12-2016, 07:19 PM	#6
34billct Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: westport ct. Posts: 166	Re: 1933 V8 Oil Pan Removal Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The oil pump screen is available part no. B-6623 from suppliers as it is used on model A and 32-36 v8's

09-12-2016, 07:31 PM	#7
Capt Kirk Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Clarkston MI Posts: 830	Re: 1933 V8 Oil Pan Removal What are the symptoms of a dirty screen...low oil pressure? Do you have a reason to believe you're screen might be dirty? If so, you should clean it...if not, this seems like a lot of work to solve a problem that might not exist. Is the oil drain plug anywhere close to where the screen is? Could a person take the plug out and inspect the screen before going through all that work. HD sells a little fiber-optic camera inspection tool that can give a person a view inside cylinders and other restricted places. It's not that much and it's on my tool wish list. __________________ 35 Ford Cabriolet 56 Chevy Pickup 63 VW Bug Empty wallet

09-12-2016, 08:35 PM	#10
Capt Kirk Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Clarkston MI Posts: 830	Re: 1933 V8 Oil Pan Removal They have several but here's one. I am not...and never will be affiliated with HD! http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee...3-20/203361193 __________________ 35 Ford Cabriolet 56 Chevy Pickup 63 VW Bug Empty wallet

09-13-2016, 11:47 AM	#11
Doug 845 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Fishkill, NY Posts: 178	Re: 1933 V8 Oil Pan Removal I never took the pan off the car and since I am replacing the entire exhaust system - I figured it would be a good time to pull the pan while I have it up on a lift. I am trying to rule out any possible problems that might arise when I put it on the road next year. I've owned this car for 30 years and have never took it off. I think its time to have a peek.