The Ford Barn

DocJohn · 07-26-2018, 12:21 PM

Anyone have a view on this? I've put new 1937 front shock links on the Pilot V8 Woodie and the taper is fine but the thread is very short and there are no split pin holes. So, the threads are too short for nylock nuts or normal nuts with split washers or to drill for split pins. Half nuts with split washers would work, or thread locking compound. What do you do?

Kahuna · 07-26-2018, 12:34 PM

Is there enough room for a PAL nut, after the first are installed?
Or, get thinner nuts? My ACE hardware store calls them jam nuts
Jim

Kahuna · 07-26-2018, 12:34 PM

Double post

drolston · 07-26-2018, 12:44 PM

Back-Order Bob is out of stock, but this is what you need. They are thin self locking nuts which are stock design for Ford shock links.

https://www.bobdrake.com/FordItem.aspx?Item=351022

Lawson Cox · 07-26-2018, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drolston

Back-Order Bob is out of stock, but this is what you need. They are thin self locking nuts which are stock design for Ford shock links.

https://www.bobdrake.com/FordItem.aspx?Item=351022

Check with Roy Nacewicz, the nut man.

Graeme / New Zealand · 07-26-2018, 03:13 PM

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Can you get the nut started on the thread? Usually as you tighten them they will pull up on the taper. I just run nuts on my shock links for the coupe and they never come off.

By the way I would love to see a photo of your Pilot woodie. I have seen both Pilot cars (even driven one) and pick-ups but never seen the woodie in the flesh.

GB

Kube · 07-26-2018, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocJohn

Anyone have a view on this? I've put new 1937 front shock links on the Pilot V8 Woodie and the taper is fine but the thread is very short and there are no split pin holes. So, the threads are too short for nylock nuts or normal nuts with split washers or to drill for split pins. Half nuts with split washers would work, or thread locking compound. What do you do?

Correct shock links for 1937 had a longer stud (threaded) than later cars (mid 1939 to about mid 1947). They utilized a thin spilt type lock washer and hex nut. As you obviously have later links, you'll need thin Marsden nuts that were used mid 1939 - '47 or so.
Roy Nacewicz sells them.

DocJohn · 07-27-2018, 01:50 AM

Thanks for the replies; all very helpful. As ever, obscure parts can be hard to get over here in the UK and expensive to ship. Now I know what I need it'll get me on the right track!

DocJohn · 07-27-2018, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Graeme / New Zealand

By the way I would love to see a photo of your Pilot woodie. I have seen both Pilot cars (even driven one) and pick-ups but never seen the woodie in the flesh.

GB

Yes, of course. I'll start a thread if there's any interest. I've got some pictures of the car in the mid 1970s before it was dismantled which are quite fun.

Graeme / New Zealand · 07-27-2018, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DocJohn

Yes, of course. I'll start a thread if there's any interest. I've got some pictures of the car in the mid 1970s before it was dismantled which are quite fun.

There's always interest here for any flathead. The Pilot is especially interesting as I suspect many of the non Commonwealth Barners would not have seen one. King George owned one, I believe it was a custom bodied Woodie or "shooting brake" as they were called.

GB

Boryca · 07-30-2018, 07:37 AM

I found thin nyloc nuts at the local hardware store. I'm sure you can find them online. They're about half the thickness of a regular nut, so there's full thread engagement through the nylon. I'd like a little more to be honest, but I'm happy with full engagement in this particular case.

Mike

DocJohn · 07-30-2018, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boryca

I found thin nyloc nuts at the local hardware store. I'm sure you can find them online. They're about half the thickness of a regular nut, so there's full thread engagement through the nylon. I'd like a little more to be honest, but I'm happy with full engagement in this particular case.

Mike

Thanks Mike, I've found some online in the UK and ordered them.

Mart · 07-30-2018, 01:16 PM

Doc, I'd try these. They're all metal, so even though thin, the locking part is still a viable part of the nut. Nylocs can end up with next to no thread if thin and sporting a heavy chamfer on the non locking end.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-4-5-16-...HCqRYt4mNAwoVQ

If too thick, they could be skimmed down on a lathe.

£2.20 for 10. enough to do all 4 corners.

Mart.

07-26-2018, 12:34 PM	#2
Kahuna Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 2,617	Re: Shock link nuts Is there enough room for a PAL nut, after the first are installed? Or, get thinner nuts? My ACE hardware store calls them jam nuts Jim

07-26-2018, 12:34 PM	#3
Kahuna Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 2,617	Re: Shock link nuts Double post

07-26-2018, 12:44 PM	#4
drolston Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,627	Re: Shock link nuts Back-Order Bob is out of stock, but this is what you need. They are thin self locking nuts which are stock design for Ford shock links. https://www.bobdrake.com/FordItem.aspx?Item=351022

07-26-2018, 03:13 PM	#6
Graeme / New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lower Hutt , New Zealand Posts: 2,126	Re: Shock link nuts Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Can you get the nut started on the thread? Usually as you tighten them they will pull up on the taper. I just run nuts on my shock links for the coupe and they never come off. By the way I would love to see a photo of your Pilot woodie. I have seen both Pilot cars (even driven one) and pick-ups but never seen the woodie in the flesh. GB __________________ "you can't make honey out of dog sh*t" "You're a long time looking at the lid"

07-27-2018, 01:50 AM	#8
DocJohn Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 68	Re: Shock link nuts Thanks for the replies; all very helpful. As ever, obscure parts can be hard to get over here in the UK and expensive to ship. Now I know what I need it'll get me on the right track!

07-30-2018, 07:37 AM	#11
Boryca Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Detroit Posts: 32	Re: Shock link nuts I found thin nyloc nuts at the local hardware store. I'm sure you can find them online. They're about half the thickness of a regular nut, so there's full thread engagement through the nylon. I'd like a little more to be honest, but I'm happy with full engagement in this particular case. Mike

07-30-2018, 01:16 PM	#13
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,749	Re: Shock link nuts Doc, I'd try these. They're all metal, so even though thin, the locking part is still a viable part of the nut. Nylocs can end up with next to no thread if thin and sporting a heavy chamfer on the non locking end. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-4-5-16-...HCqRYt4mNAwoVQ If too thick, they could be skimmed down on a lathe. £2.20 for 10. enough to do all 4 corners. Mart.