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Old 01-06-2020, 09:52 PM   #1
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Default Remove sector needle bearings

Iíve been tearing my steering box/column apart over the last few days and to my surprise it had already been converted to needle bearings. The sector, worm and races were shot but everything else was in decent shape

The bearings installed are Torrington bearings and seem to be in decent shape but I might want to take them out to make sure. I do want to replace the seal at least, what would be the best way to remove it? I canít tell if the housing was machined from both ends and the bearings were then pressed from each side or if they were pressed in with a spacer and everything goes in one end? I donít want to try pressing everything out and inadvertently destroy one of the bearings.
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Old 01-06-2020, 11:04 PM   #2
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If they are good now most likely they will be damaged in removing them, the seal should be able to be changed without disturbing the bearings--- what did the shaft on the old sector look like
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Old 01-07-2020, 07:41 AM   #3
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It was pitted in the areas of the needle bearings, looked okay in the space in between. It was an original Ford part. Giving it some more thought, I should just change the bearings. The kit is $15 for the bearings and seal. I have a soft spot for Torrington bearings since they were made in the area but I'm sure the right thing is to change the bearings.


That being said, what is the easiest way to get them out?
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:59 AM   #4
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I just put mine back the way it came, with the bronze bushing. I figure it will outlast me.
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Old 01-07-2020, 01:03 PM   #5
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I would do that but this sector housing was converted to needle bearings so I can't use the bushings.
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Old 01-07-2020, 01:36 PM   #6
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They should press straight through
Aftermarket 36 steering sectors usually had bushings to replace the needle bearings ---- they are the needle bearings used to replace bushings on the A
I also have made custom bushings to reuse original sectors that I had ground the shaft slightly undersized--- bought cored round bushing material from industrial supply
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Old 01-07-2020, 02:46 PM   #7
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Well then I'll stick it in the press tonight and see if anything pops loose.
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Old 01-07-2020, 06:21 PM   #8
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I installed needle bearings in the sector housing of my '30 and do not remember machining the bore. I may be wrong I think they just press right in. I do remember machining the bore for the seal.


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Old 01-07-2020, 06:39 PM   #9
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I would fabricate a push tool with a pilot end to help keep things straight going in or out with them. Needle bearings are kind of dainty.

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Old 01-07-2020, 08:47 PM   #10
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Well, this sector housing had each end bored and material was left in the middle for each bearing to sit against. I punched them out, the bearings were loose on the sector shaft, I’ll have to see how worn the shaft it.
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Old 01-07-2020, 10:35 PM   #11
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I thought my sector was good till I put calipers on it. It was oval. If you think about it, it spends most of its life in relativity straight ahead position and that’s how it was worn.
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Old 01-08-2020, 05:43 PM   #12
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If you need a sector housing I can send you one for the cost of shipping.
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Old 01-08-2020, 07:32 PM   #13
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I may take you up on that. You are talking about a sector housing that has not been converted to needles correct? I am going to put new needles in the housing I have but if the fit isn't satisfactory I will try the bushings.
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Old 01-08-2020, 10:44 PM   #14
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Yes, stock housing. If you need it my phone number is 772 341 8291
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