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Old 01-17-2020, 09:17 PM   #1
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Default Allen Syncrograph Model E-316 Looking Info & Parts

Picked up a vintage Allen Model E-316 Syncrograph today. l just got home after driving all day to get it. It's missing all the adapters and I'm sure some other stuff. I'll post more details as I start to dig into it. It is a beautiful Art Deco design. Please let me know if you have additional info or parts for it.
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:24 PM   #2
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Here is the manual.
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Old 01-18-2020, 01:20 AM   #3
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I don't know model #, but probably similar internally, haven't found anything in parts, would like to find a meter lens, top one I sanded and polished, the bottom one has a big divot in the center, still thinking about repairs,have to rewire the power, test and change capacitors etc

The valves in the vacuum pump are Schrader valves that look like for tires, but they have a very light spring tension, use ones for compression testers

For chuck key I will copy the one that came with my other machine,piece of key stock with a knob

The sunnen flathead distributor adapter fits the Allen machine too
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:00 AM   #4
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That looks almost identical to either the E1416HD or the E1415HD model according to the manual. Can't tell which is which as one of the models as an additional feature to display specs for different vehicle distributors. The manual is currently for sale on eBay for only $18.95.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Allen-Model...wAAOSwVJhZRnL4

There is also one of the machines for sale as well on eBay for $599.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-All...YAAOSwxupcszYX
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:15 AM   #5
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Came across this incredible resto-mod restoration of one. I also came across a very nice vintage artsy pic, but of course I can't find that link.
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:33 AM   #6
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Found the pic. Lol. For some reason, it wouldn't let me save it.
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:36 AM   #7
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Also found this resto-mod restoration on Barrett-Jackson. It must have been an incredible amount of work to restore it. Asking $1725.
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:58 AM   #8
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Geez. Another one Barrett-Jackson. Sold for $3,800!.
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:59 AM   #9
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This one sold at Bonams for $561 in 2007!
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Old 01-19-2020, 11:16 AM   #10
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Had a quick look inside. Everything seems to appear in good order. I understand that it needs a six volt battery, and it has two non original black leads coming down from the inside upper right rear corner. The manual is a copy, and of course they managed to cut off part of the schematic. Any help on which of the two leads go where would be much appreciated.
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Old 01-22-2020, 10:03 PM   #11
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Was about to purchase a 6V UPS battery, but had second thoughts when I saw how small it was. I did a quick search on the net and found this thread, where Don mentions in post #24 that it requires an automotive size battery. So, I found that the same store actually had an automotive size battery contrary to what they had originally told me. Their site said they should have one in stock, but of course they couldn't find it. Luckily, another one of their stores had one not too far away. I'm not sure yet what the battery is supposed to power, but I'm sure it should be more than enough with 640 CCA and 130 minute reserve capacity.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...9786&showall=1
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Old 01-23-2020, 07:06 PM   #12
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Found this on Internet Archieve.
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Second page...
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Some more pics of the unit. Tag on rear actually shows it being a model E121.6HD. Strange as I can't find anything on the net with that model number.
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The main drive motor with vacuum pump on top.
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The distributor drive mechanism.
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The trickle charger.
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Old 01-24-2020, 09:17 PM   #18
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Dug into it a little tonight. The manual mentions there are three flashlight type D cells contained in the compartment at the rear of the of the Dwell-Tach instrument chassis. I don't see any batteries or even evidence there were once some there. I guess I'll need to dig some more.
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Old 01-24-2020, 09:18 PM   #19
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Other side with spec sheet scroll wooden drums.
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I took a couple pics of the damaged distributor spec sheets pertaining to Ford/ Lincoln/Mercury.
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