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Old 12-05-2021, 03:06 PM   #1
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Angry Fake, Phony, and False

OK, sorry if this seems a bit gruff and I really don't know if there is a place to post thieves that misrepresent themselves when selling items. Beware of purchasing anything from "mar4i7". He sold me a Zenith B Carb for $150 and it appears he took the money and ran. Seemed legit with initial comms, but once he received the money, won't reply to any of my queries.

Anyone else ever have similar problems with this character or other sellers? This was my first time buying from someone on Ford Barn, so maybe first-timers luck!
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Old 12-05-2021, 03:27 PM   #2
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OK, sorry if this seems a bit gruff and I really don't know if there is a place to post thieves that misrepresent themselves when selling items. Beware of purchasing anything from "mar4i7". He sold me a Zenith B Carb for $150 and it appears he took the money and ran. Seemed legit with initial comms, but once he received the money, won't reply to any of my queries.

Anyone else ever have similar problems with this character or other sellers? This was my first time buying from someone on Ford Barn, so maybe first-timers luck!
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You have been on here a couple years and have posted several times.

The Zenith B Carburetor that you paid $150 for ….
What is the fair market value of that ?

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Old 12-05-2021, 04:26 PM   #3
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How many posts does he have? That’s often a key indicator. I also look at previous posts to see what involvement they have on the site.
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Old 12-05-2021, 05:52 PM   #4
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Im saddened if thats the case, especially on here.

Here's a few stratigies I gemerally use when buying parts etc, especially if I have any doubt at all. It might help others.


1) Is the price a little too good to be true?
2) Do a reverse search on google images
3) Review the seller's profile, post count etc.
4) Request a proof of life live video chat with the seller and part.
5) Only pay with paypal and NEVER friends and family, if need be I'll pay the paypal premium. If they want something else I walk away. It may mean I dont get to buy everything I want but saves me getting ripped off again.

That seems to weed out scammers.

Good luck getting this sorted.
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Old 12-05-2021, 06:33 PM   #5
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Exclamation Do Your Own Homework

Before anyone takes to this forum or any other public forum
and posts questioning the Integrity of another member …

DO YOUR HOMEWORK

If you are going to contemplate doing business
with another member - check their User Profile:






See if they have made any other posts:






Based on these two things I found in a simple search
to me this looks like a Possible Dispute between a
Buyer & Seller ….

Don’t start a thread about your dispute here …


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Old 12-05-2021, 06:41 PM   #6
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If it doesn’t belong let Ryan delete it!!
Transaction looks fishy to me and buyer can get seller to contact.
So where’s he going to turn next?
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Old 12-05-2021, 07:01 PM   #7
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TV
If it doesn’t belong let Ryan delete it!!
Transaction looks fishy to me and buyer can get seller to contact.
So where’s he going to turn next?
You want to see every dispute aired
here on the forum ?

Neither you or me or anyone else knows what
exactly is going on here - look at the images
I posted - the Seller does not appear to be
on here to do what the Buyer is alleging
( in my opinion ).

This thread needs to be deleted.


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Old 12-05-2021, 07:26 PM   #8
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Well let’s see what Ryan does
That’s the litmus!
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Old 12-05-2021, 07:44 PM   #9
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Well let’s see what Ryan does
That’s the litmus!
And that is what the OP should have done to resolve this.
If there is a dispute between a Buyer & Seller arising
from a transaction originating on this forum - then it
should be reported to a forum moderator.

Calling someone

“ Fake, Phony, and False “ unless be have a Court Judgement
declaring it to be so - is slanderous and libelous.


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Old 12-05-2021, 09:53 PM   #10
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Calling someone

“ Fake, Phony, and False “ unless be have a Court Judgement
declaring it to be so - is slanderous and libelous.


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Old 12-06-2021, 01:57 AM   #11
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I for one appreciate a heads up on those that take your money and run. I can't think of a better label that fraud, cheat, thief.

I would hardly call this a buyer/seller dispute. This is a buyer that did not receive what he paid for.

I would never consider doing business with someone that defends the thief and turns the victim into the aggressor who called the thief a thief.

Lots of good ideas on how to avoid this kind of problem

If this is a problem of slow delivery or return of buyers money the problem is solved and sellers reputation restored.


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Old 12-06-2021, 04:49 AM   #12
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The OP posted looking for a carburetor on November 19th:


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The OP started this thread on December 5th.

Do The Math ….


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Old 12-06-2021, 07:43 AM   #13
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I only us Paypal, and do not use friends and family if you have concerns
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Old 12-06-2021, 08:14 AM   #14
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2 sides to every story. Always need to be carefull when posting want ads. I have bought a lot of car parts over the net and am happy to say I have never been ripped off. I only by from people I 'know' though.
TV, looks like it was posted 11/18 or 11/19 I can hardly read the date.
OP, More details may be needed before you call someone out. How long have you been waiting? Same ole story but mail is slow. I know I am guilty of delayed shipping on some stuff I sell but I do let the buyer know I am running behind, maybe thats the case.
Hope it works out for you.
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Old 12-06-2021, 09:47 AM   #15
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some time makes sense.


expecting next day air isnt happening.........


often retired people sit around expecting everything to be instant and doesnt usually work that way.


I agree, I very rarely do friends and family. worth the 3% fee to know I have recourse, esp if the expenditure is considerable.
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Not sure I understand “do the math” but do live under a rock!
Not real sure of the time line in all this and noted that is important.
However, after payment, the seller not communicating is a problem.
Done with this tread…worn it out!
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Old 12-06-2021, 12:14 PM   #17
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There is a reason Ryan set the classifieds up, so new accounts need to have 10 post before messages can be sent or received, unless the scammer wants to get to the 10 post rule. For first contact, you should only reply through the system, not outside it via an email or phone number. Under 10, those people can not receive or send messages through the system. This only applies to the classifieds, the forums are different and can be used by new members. None the less that still sucks, losing money like that. While not 100%, if the member has a high post showing under their name, that should be a different story, re how they are contacted.
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Old 12-06-2021, 05:18 PM   #18
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I think the virus has many folks a little quick to cry, whine, and rage.
You've got a lot of nerve tying these two issues together.
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Old 12-06-2021, 05:37 PM   #19
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I think the virus has many folks a little quick to cry, whine, and rage.
It is the truth and may apply in this scenario. Also it was stated in a context answering another statement. Yes I have nerve to state factual observations.
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The "accusee" visits the Ford Barn almost daily. Today he logged in at 5:09am. I'm sure the OP has tried to PM him? or not??
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