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Old 02-27-2018, 08:18 PM   #21
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I make parts for the 1934 Ford on my lathe with a 12" swing. Here is a look at some of them. Roadster pivot bolts, and extended nuts to mount the Dual Temp Gauge. No one is showing what they make for the Model A so I am showing what I make for the V8!
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Old 02-27-2018, 09:07 PM   #22
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In 1960 we cut one bank off of a 283 Chev block to make a 4 cylinder engine for a midget race car.
We made the crank from a 6 inch round SAE6150 billet in a lathe.
The engine made 240 hp on the dyno and won the first 4 races it was in but the block broke from lack of support from the missing bank.

A model A crank could easily be made in a home shop this way if someone had the ambition.
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Old 02-27-2018, 10:14 PM   #23
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In 1960 we cut one bank off of a 283 Chev block to make a 4 cylinder engine for a midget race car.
We made the crank from a 6 inch round SAE6150 billet in a lathe.
The engine made 240 hp on the dyno and won the first 4 races it was in but the block broke from lack of support from the missing bank.

A model A crank could easily be made in a home shop this way if someone had the ambition.
That's a LOT of Ambition, too much for me.

One of my fellow racers has Bruce Johnsons old Crankshaft lathe in his shop.
A massive hunk of iron.

I am on the lookout for a good cam grinder............J
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Old 02-28-2018, 01:03 AM   #24
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Here is a brake cross shaft repair made relatively easy
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Old 02-28-2018, 05:32 AM   #25
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I make parts for the 1934 Ford on my lathe with a 12" swing. Here is a look at some of them. Roadster pivot bolts, and extended nuts to mount the Dual Temp Gauge. No one is showing what they make for the Model A so I am showing what I make for the V8!
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:31 AM   #26
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I've turned down brake cross shafts after building up with weld, similar to KR500. I've turned up new carb venturies in brass, made bushes for front axles, modified 7 tooth steering column shafts to take chevron seals, new lower bushes for the same, gudgeon bushes for my Durant. Windscreen frame pivot bushes for dads Phaeton, and more including various tools. I also have a mill and repair parts and make tools with it as well.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:30 PM   #27
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I have subscribed to the homeshopmachinist.com for 30 years and even as a journeymen toolmaker . They have lots of small projects for the lathe and mill. They also show you with prints how to make small flathead engines like the rupnow , hit-n miss and others.
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Old 02-28-2018, 11:58 PM   #28
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I have subscribed to the homeshopmachinist.com for 30 years and even as a journeymen toolmaker . They have lots of small projects for the lathe and mill. They also show you with prints how to make small flathead engines like the rupnow , hit-n miss and others.
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Not much to see on homeshopmachinist.com, or is it only me...
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Old 03-01-2018, 06:50 AM   #29
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It's "http://www.homeshopmachinist.net". Thank you for the heads up, it's a nice site.
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:27 AM   #30
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It's "http://www.homeshopmachinist.net". Thank you for the heads up, it's a nice site.
Looks better. Thanks
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Old 03-01-2018, 12:28 PM   #31
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KR500, most small home lathe owners aren't lucky enough to have a steady rest. The only attachments missing from my Clausing Colchester is a face plate and a taper attachment.
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Old 03-01-2018, 10:11 PM   #32
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Slammin, You are undoubtedly right. Whenever I have contemplated a machine purchase, I make sure I can get everything that belongs with a machine. In buying a lathe a drawbar and 5C collets are a nice addition. I had trained on a lathe when I was an apprentice. The company I apprenticed at (Bell & Howell) had everything. The old timer made sure I knew how to use all of it. Cutting right hand, left hand, double lead, and triple lead threads. The lathe I used as I recall was a Monarch. It was equipped with a lock in feature to have carriage feed pull the tailstock in for drilling or reaming. The lathe is only limited by your imagination. Seeing George Miller using a Winona or Sunnen grinder for doing a crank proves this out.
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:35 AM   #33
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Grinding a crank shaft in a lathe.

I have used my lathe to make many parts for my A's
That is a very clever set up you have there George. I like the system for following the big end journals round. Is it possible please to have some additional photographs of that arrangement?
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Old 03-02-2018, 07:53 AM   #34
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This is the only two that I have.
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Thank you George, I will print those two off. Very interesting.

I assume the electric motor/grinder on the cross slide can slide backwards and forwards in the angle iron frame as the crank turns.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:05 PM   #36
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Thank you George, I will print those two off. Very interesting.

I assume the electric motor/grinder on the cross slide can slide backwards and forwards in the angle iron frame as the crank turns.
Yes it is really a grinder we used in my Dad garage to grind rod journals in the car. Some times some one would have one rod bearing go. With this you could grind it in the car. We did it for other repair shops also.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:19 PM   #37
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earlier in the week a friend had a Model A front axle the spring perch was wore out. So we put a bushing in it with my mill.

But that is a job you could do in a Lathe. It would be a little harder but doable.
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:49 PM   #38
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Here is a advertisement for a crankshaft grinder.
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Yes it is really a grinder we used in my Dad garage to grind rod journals in the car. Some times some one would have one rod bearing go. With this you could grind it in the car. We did it for other repair shops also.
How accurate was it, and what was life expectancy of the job?
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Many thanks briphaeton, that is very interesting. It looks very similar to George's equipment.
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