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Old 08-28-2012, 08:10 PM   #1
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To restore or not to restore; that is the question.
My grandfather recently gave me the keys to his 1940 Ford Sedan Standard. I'm not a car buff but I am honored more than anyone can imagine. This beauty runs good and the body is in great shape. Should I replace some of the small things like the window handles, radio, antenna, stitch up the interior or just leave it alone? It has a 1950 Flathead from a Ford truck V8 85 Hp. Since some items have already been replaced in the past, will I be deducting some of its worth by replacing some of those parts that wil just look better new? I am NOT interested in selling it but obviously do not want to devalue the car by making unnecessary changes. Open to any and all input. Thanks, this is my first post.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:29 PM   #2
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Drive it and enjoy it the way it is....
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If it aint broke (yet) dont fix it. Keep it, drive it, enjoy it. Got any photos?

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If it aint broke (yet) dont fix it. Keep it, drive it, enjoy it. Got any photos?

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i like Chris's thought on this. and again, any photos? i would love to see pics. im a huge fordor buff ha ha!
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Maintain it, and enjoy. It's very easy to invest more into a restoration that the value of the car.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:46 PM   #6
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X3 on Chris's comment. Take care of the important things first. Like brakes and steering. It sounds like it may be a good runner. If it is run it a while. If there are things that need attention they will show up soon enough. Deal with them as they happen.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:51 PM   #7
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I went through a lot of these same thoughts. As long as you aren't doing something irreversible like copping or welding to the frame you won't devalue it much. Keep any part you take off. If the stuffing is coming out of the seat, sewing it up isn't hurting anything. Not like you are dropping mustang seats in it. Main thing is make it something you enjoy. Mouse piss smell isn't patina. Changing handles and stuff is pretty minor, you already said the motor isn't historically correct. You can't make everyone happy, do what makes the car enjoyable to you and your family.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:57 PM   #8
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I have posted some pics on my profile album under The Ford.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:23 PM   #9
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Leave it alone! If my Grandfather gave me a car that he had for 62 years I would cherish it and him. Do only what is necessary to make the car a safe, reliable driver and have fun. Oh don't forget to take him for a ride every now and then, bet his face would be beeming!
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:27 PM   #10
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I'm with alan. Practice your driving until you are smooth as silk in starting, shifting, and stopping. Then take granddad for a ride and he'll be on cloud nine from watching you! Good luck and be safe. There is plenty of help at the Fordbarn to help deal with whatever comes up.
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Wow, that is a very nice straight forty. Not original inside, so changes wouldn't change the degree of originality. Looks too good to change anything though.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:37 PM   #12
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You are honored to receive the car. Honor your Grandfather by driving it. Get involved with a local car club. Take the car and your Grandfather out to some local shows. You both will meet a LOT of wonderful people and have a ball !! It's not about winning a car show, it's about making memories.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:45 PM   #13
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After looking at this car i would never touch it in respect for him. Truly a good looking old car. Enjoy it and cherish your grandfather as long as you can.
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TAshcraft .............................
Nice looking 1940 Ford !
As Russ/40 stated, the interior has been replaced, so any fixing up, on the interior, that you do, will only help the car.
The car is a Standard. That is why there is only one tail-light. Personally, I would be thinking of installing a R/H tail-light, just for safty's sake. Those original tail-lights are not very bright, out in today's traffic.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:51 PM   #15
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Drive it and enjoy it the way it is....
I agree with this, often restorations take an enormous amount of time....and that means less drivin and enjoyment time....the older I get the more I enjoy these classics!
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:04 PM   #16
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We all agree on this one! Enjoy and Maintain it. My Grandfather gave me His '50 Tudor. It is not as good as yours but I am proud to own it.
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Beautiful car!! Everything about it. I would, however, go with a second tail light.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:08 PM   #18
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Beautiful car as is, just drive it.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:16 PM   #19
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Good looking car. Welcome to FordBarn.

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Old 08-28-2012, 11:30 PM   #20
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that is one sexy car man!
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:46 PM   #21
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YOU are a lucky guy, in so many ways! And, he must some love for you. I just know that you give him a bear hug and a good handshake...each time that you see him,eh!! Can not tell you what to do with you heirloom, but I'd keep it the way he gave it.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:17 AM   #22
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it doesn't appear to need much of anything, other than what was said in earlier part of this thread, make sure the mechanical items are in good working order, brakes and steering, fuel lines, gas tank etc. minor sewing if okay, it's a beaut! the way it is, keep it waxed and clean inside and enjoy it.
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Wow! What a car!

If mine had started out looking as good as yours I probably wouldn't have done a thing to it. But, it is fun to "tinker" with it and replace a little here and a little there to try to make it more authentic if you're into that. Maybe get the radio working if it isn't. Stuff like that. But, certainly nothing major as far as I can see.

I agree with others that safety is worth some modification, i.e. a starboard tail light and maybe super bright bulbs to go in them to be well seen from behind. Here's a new one ready to install for $28.00: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=JvX6hoUzgBE And here's the super bright bulb to put in them: http://www.vintageford.com/part_sear...3-6sb&Category=
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:50 AM   #24
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Regarding the Standard lacking a passenger fender tail light....

Can't tell for sure in the pictures, but it looks like grandpa already added aftermarket taillights (maybe they are even turn signals) peeking above the back bumper on the driver and passenger side?
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Wow Nice!! I would add a taillight, make sure that brakes are good and drive it. What a great car, and you obviously have a great grandpa too. Get him to help you with the maintenance and take him out in it as often as you can.
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Nice. Drive it. Don't rely on safety equipment, you need to drive these defensively.
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Do not change a thing, granpa is watching.
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Drive it and enjoy it as is, that's my opinion. Have fun with it.
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They are blinker lights. The passenger side blinks but the driver side stays on when the toggle switch is on. Any ideas on how to make it blink instead?
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I have useed the Whitney's tire bleach and a magic eraser on the white walls. Anyone have any "tricks" to get them really white? I have them looking better than the pics above now but wouldn't mind if they blinded me, lol. As far as when he gave it to me, I must be honest; I served 4 years in the Marine Corps Infantry and another 4 in the Air Force so emotions are not my forte. When I was cleaning it, when the pics were taken, and he walked out and handed me the title, I cried like a baby, snot and all. This is his number 1 most prized possession EVER! The radio doesn't work and I see that earlyford.com (I think) has the parts to replace the knobs. The radio turns on but the station knob won't turn. You guys migh have a trick for that too. Like I stated earlier, I'm not a car buff, until now, but any help you can give is GREATLY appreciated. I am going to change the oil in it this week, I ordered the filter. I took it out the Sunday after he gave it to me and put about 60 miles on it and it ran great. Drips about 5-6 drops of oil after each drive, looks like the rear end has dropped a few drops. Oh and of course I got a screw in the tire on that trip. I actually took my kids down to the old Ritz theater in it, I'll post a pic so you can see the car in front of the theater. Thanks for the comments and ideas. I feel like I have won the lottery! Thanks again. TA
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Don't worry about the oil dripping, that’s just the cars way of lettin' you know it’s got oil in it...
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THANKS for serving, great car,just have fun.
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If I could only follow my own advice... rule 1 if it ain't broke, don't fix it
Live with it for a year and let it tell you what needs doing.
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I have used the Whitney's tire bleach and a magic eraser on the white walls. Anyone have any "tricks" to get them really white? I have them looking better than the pics above now but wouldn't mind if they blinded me, lol.
Many have had success with Ranger tire paint to restore their white walls: http://www.rangerpaint.com/
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You are one lucky grandson, very nice car.
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very nice car and I can see it was well cared for, thankyou for posting pictures on your album in your profile page, your grandpa looks good!
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The radio doesn't work and I see that earlyford.com (I think) has the parts to replace the knobs. The radio turns on but the station knob won't turn. You guys migh have a trick for that too. Like I stated earlier, I'm not a car buff, until now, but any help you can give is GREATLY appreciated.
Your radio may well need an overhaul. The old paper capacitors deteriorate over time and if yours has never been serviced they are probably shot and need replaced along with a number of other repairs. Ask Gramps how long it's been since the radio worked. If it hasn't been recently it probably needs the overhaul. Unless you're an expert in electronics such overhaul is best left to those with experience. Here is a list of places that can do the job: http://antiqueradio.org/parts.htm
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I am going to change the oil in it this week, I ordered the filter.
A lot of maintenance and repair parts can actually be bought off the shelf from your local NAPA auto parts store. That's where I get a lot of mine including the oil filter, points, condenser, etc.
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Drive it, maintain it. Some of the little things that you might want to replace, are the things that make it unique and wonderful.

Learn about the maintenance procedure for your car. Drive it nicely and you'll probably will have a great ford that will drive you anywhere for years to come.
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Thanks for sharing! The picture of your grandpa through the window glass in the '40 is suitable for framing...what a picture! I would cherish it for sure! Enjoy your car and your new found hobby...you will meet many nice guys & gals while enjoying your car. Pat
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I would buy the little parts that need replacing and install them "little by little" while first and foremost still maintaining the road worthiness of the car. I say that because at some point in the future these parts may not still be available - even as repro.
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Here is a complete maintenance list for 46-48 that would, for the most part, apply to your car so that you can keep it in tip top shape.
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If Gramps didn't have an original owner/operator's manual for the car you might try to get one of those. I don't see one for sale on ebay at this time but you can keep checking. Here are some other manuals that might come in handy: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop=...d+manual&rt=nc
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wow, what a jewel! drive the wheels off it!
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You're a lucky fellow....just maintain, drive it and enjoy it.
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Beautiful car!

I would drive it as is and like others have said, replace the little things if they bother you or if you are interested in fixing it up, but I wouldn't do anything that took it off the road for an extended period of time unless absolutely necessary.

Have fun! Welcome to the hobby!
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Ever thought of asking your Grandfather,he might have the correct answer..
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They are blinker lights. The passenger side blinks but the driver side stays on when the toggle switch is on. Any ideas on how to make it blink instead?
First see if a bulb is burned out.
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Pretty nice little car - I'm with the rest saying to leave it alone completely as this is the way Grandpa built it. He's giving it to you now so he can SEE your enjoyment with the car. Honor him by learning to drive it well and then spend as much time with him as possible, together, in that car. You will make him the happiest person on earth, you will never forget it, and neither will he.

Good luck and do all of us "grandpas" proud!
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I looked at the pictures in the album. That is a gem. Appearance wise it looks perfect to me. Your grandpa gave you a real nice heirloom.
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I'd work WITH Gramps on the car.

Get a feel for how he does stuff, and just learn from him and then carry on doing the same!

He didn't do too bad, did he?

It's a great looking car and a credit to him.

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Old 08-29-2012, 07:41 PM   #52
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Ask gramps if there is anything he would do with the car if he had the money or could find it. While he is with you, I wouldn't change anything he doesn't "wish he could find". Being younger and on the internet, you may be able to find a lot of things he never found. ButI wouldn't do a thing he doesn't say he would like to see done.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:43 PM   #53
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Nice as is. The key points from the comment are;
1. Respect who gave it to you, and what it is.
2. Restoring a is major ego trip & cost. You usually never get the cost back if you sell it.
3. It's only "original" once, leave it alone.
4. There are lots of "restored cars", and an original car is unique, and we all know it.
5. With the Fordbarn as resource you can resolve any issue, and improve it as needed.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:28 PM   #54
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Maintain it and drive it, have fun.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:25 PM   #55
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Here is a complete maintenance list for 46-48 that would, for the most part, apply to your car so that you can keep it in tip top shape.
Oops. I posted the older version of my maintenance schedule. Here is the better one. Both have the same info but this newer one is more "user friendly."
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