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Old 01-17-2019, 05:41 PM   #21
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Maybe one axle gear is worn more than the other side so there is "slop" one side only?
That may be perhaps my third problem. If I turn one wheel on lifted rear axle in one way and then retard the turnings, at the first moment I can feel a short cartylage/yank.


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Is there actual movement between hub and axle when it clicks?
Yes, a small little bit.
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:42 PM   #22
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Once the nut is torqued there should be no looseness between the hub and axle. Is it possible the nut gets tight before the hub is all the way onto the axle? Maybe a heavy washer needs to be used between the nut and the hub?
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Hello Jim,

the way of the drum is enough on the axle shaft. I put the fiber gasket too between nut and washer. I try to put in a second shim on the shaft. The key is new.

Today I found an other problem. While I wantet to renew the outer grease seal (Simmering) I saw some big corrosion on the rolls of the bearing and much deep wholes in the hub. -


15 miles behind Nürnberg I was on the shool for 10 years.
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Old 01-18-2019, 05:41 PM   #24
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Those parts in the pictures are bad! The bearings anyway. Look at the tapered hole and see if it is beaten, or worn out. If it is the drum will have to be replaced.

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the way of the drum is enough on the axle shaft. I put the fiber gasket too between nut and washer. I try to put in a second shim on the shaft. The key is new.

Today I found an other problem. While I wantet to renew the outer grease seal (Simmering) I saw some big corrosion on the rolls of the bearing and much deep wholes in the hub. -


15 miles behind Nürnberg I was on the shool for 10 years.
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Hello Terry,

I ask myself: What's the first; my without problems running car or my perfect english/american language?
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:28 PM   #27
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Werner, That bearing, and the hub it rides in, should be replaced if you are going to drive the car any distance. Check the area on the end of the axle housing too. Repair "sleeves" are made for the axle housing ends, I don't know about for the hub. If you are going to trailer the car to events, don't worry about it.
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Hey Jim,

if the roadster is ready, I think I drive probably 3000 - 4000 miles every year.
Has anybody experience with this repair set for much thousand miles?: https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_m...epair-kit.html -


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I reed you have a C 172. The picture showes my Citroen with a C 140. Both was built at 1947. The airplane's wings had been still of wood.
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Werner, I don't have the Cessna 172 any longer. I lost it in 1998 when a student and instructor that were leasing it out from me. While there were no injuries, the plane was wrecked. Only 400 hours on the engine. At first, I was going to replace it. but then The Kennedy boy was killed. Then the owner of the airport Steven Snyder was killed when his F86 flamed out at about 500 ft. You may know of Steve, He was fascinated with early Jets and was the person who was building the five reproduction ME 262s. He had many aviation Patents A great loss! One of the planes was going to Lufthansa. And one other death made me reconsider.
The 140 in the picture looks nice. Is that your's? I only flew a taildragger once, A Citabria. It was an high wing stunt plane with an 0-320 lycoming. My plane had an 0-320 H2ad. This plane did not have a yoke, it was a stick like the early planes. A real fun part of my life!
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Once the nut is torqued there should be no looseness between the hub and axle. Is it possible the nut gets tight before the hub is all the way onto the axle? Maybe a heavy washer needs to be used between the nut and the hub?
A few years ago, I had a Model A that we had to add a washer to the drivers side rear axel to be able to use cotter pin with nut. If you need to add washer, make sure it’s steel.

Pulled drum, replaced key, tighten axel nut to 100 foot pounds. Key hole was to far out to hold nut in place. Adding washer solved problem. Drum turned properly without binding. Enjoy.
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I haven't tried that kit from Mac's but it looks like it should work just fine. You should also check the outer end of the axle housings for wear, it is very common.
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Old 01-20-2019, 03:39 PM   #32
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Terry, I can understand you very well. I was involved in the Ramstein accident in 1988. Since then, I'm claustrophobic inside.

Our ME 266 from Everett does not belong to Lufthansa, but to the Messerschmitt foundation. I saw her on a NATO flight with the Avacs (B 707).

The 140 belongs to a friend. He also has a C 172 rocket. Flying is very expensive in Germany, 1 gallon avgas costs the equivalent of 11 dollars. Oldtimers are supposedly "loud" and therefore may fly only limited.

I fly only large model airplanes. The biggest one is a Spacewalker with 7 cylinder rotation engine. I wrote some books aubout this.
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Old 01-20-2019, 03:55 PM   #33
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Hello Jim & VHN, much thanks you to everyone for your help.

The hub has now become firm with shim and thick slice.

I made a compromise. I coated the hub and the rollers with hot lubricating varnish paint and mounted them with a high-pressure grease. I think that works 1000 mils. If I hear a positive recommendation for MACs repair kit, then I install this in the summer. Currently we have frost with -7 ° C.

Just I'm waiting on of 4 Stipe's shock adsorbers.
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Werner, In addition to my 3 Model A Fords, I also have a 96 SAAB 9000 CSE. I use a 2013 Transit van, A great little truck! And a 1986 Case 580E backhoe. Despite the fact that I was a Tool and Diemaker and can run any of the Non CNC machines in a Machine shop. And worked for a large U.S. research company, I cannot figure a computer out. I can perform only the simplest operations . Signing on, e-mail, etc. Posting pictures is somewhat beyond me. Especially old photographs, of which I have many. Older cars, boats, my airplane. My mining adventures. I can't get beyond the initial scan. What do I do with them after that? What do I do then, send them where? How do I get them out when I want to? This computer doesn't help me one bit.(Apple) Directions? What are they? So I live in the age of computers and can't use them effectively. Might as well be stranded on a desert island.
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Mac computers are supposedly easy to use, but I've never used one myself.

Try: https://support.apple.com/en-ca/explore/new-to-mac

Maybe the book: MACS FOR DUMMIES
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Old 01-25-2019, 03:26 PM   #36
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Hello,

my impatience did not keep me waiting. So I have the repair parts already in my hand. It is looking good, the surfaces have fine microinches. It is not easy to mount, because the outer ring must with 10 tons be pressed in the drum. I will report.
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Hello.

The repair of the outer bearing ring works very well. Both were easy to press in; left 5 to, right only 1 to. Loctite to it!

It's exactly to see that the makeshift roller bearing has smaller rollers. This is not a problem with the load capacity if use a modern synthetic high-pressure grease (no graphite, no MoS2!).

Do not throw away the old rolling bearing in the garbage. It makes a good help to press in the race and the simmering.
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Werner, I have used that repair kit, and it works very well. What does the bottom of the axle housing look like? The surface the inside of the new bearing turns on.
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Hello Russ,

do you mean the orange marked area? That is looking astonish good because the other parts was very bad!

Please look also picture on # 23.
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What does the bottom of the axle housing look like? The surface the inside of the new bearing turns on.
I may be wrong, but I think that picture is of the top, not the bottom as Russ/40 asked for.
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