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Old 05-01-2017, 03:44 PM   #21
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Gunmetal blue2,
Does your Aug 29 AA have the straight cut battery hole or the angled type like later floorboards? You mentioned above it is like Iverson's, but I would sure think it would be the wider angled style. Your AA truck is near the vintage of my 29 CCPU, so that is why I am interested in what you have. I assume your floorboard is original, correct? Would you post a picture of you lower floorboard?
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made by Murray and fits perfect
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Old 05-01-2017, 04:26 PM   #24
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Mark,
Your floorboards sure look like they are made from soft wood (fir/pine/spruce) plywood from looking at the grain. Maybe I am wrong and they are made from hardwood plywood. Did you ever measure the thickness of the Murray Linker floorboards?
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Old 05-01-2017, 04:38 PM   #25
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3/4" plywood is actually 23/32

https://www.thespruce.com/identifyin...-sizes-3536691

Only 1/32 (.03) over 11/16. Still too thick?
Some places still offer the full 3'4". Pricey. "X" grades.
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not my vintage but wanted to share pic of what i believe are original boards (brake to side). note that the width varys along the length of some boards. one can never have enough pictures
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Old 05-01-2017, 08:45 PM   #27
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My original early 29 Tudor boards are the same. The boards vary in width from one end to the other end of each board. This really shows how every possible piece of wood was used by Ford.
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My original early 29 Tudor boards are the same. The boards vary in width from one end to the other end of each board. This really shows how every possible piece of wood was used by Ford.
Same on this end with my Feb. 1929 Tudor.

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Deleted - I see well covered in last nights entry after I went to bed - and revealed on today's "refresh."

Good to see looking at an "original" board that Ford used the Linderman construction to achieve "use of scraps." And not just three whole boards as shown on the HTRYMA Vol 6.

The top view of the lower board seems to be made of three boards - not so the bottom of the bottom board which reveals that each of these three segment are made up of as many as three smaller boards. .

Linderman was their version of finger joints.

And does kind of make one wonder again the popular misconception of frugal Henry having used subcontractor supply boxes (and specifying box materials and size along with the engineering specification of the components contained therein) to make flooring for the Model A.

I think we've been through and discredited the legend. But seeing the actual board one wonders.

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While taking the wood out of a Victoria we found several pieces that were put together from multiple boards using long dovetail joints, while the drawings only showed a single piece.
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While taking the wood out of a Victoria we found several pieces that were put together from multiple boards using long dovetail joints, while the drawings only showed a single piece.
Mike, was this floorboards?
If not floorboards, was it dovetailed, or finger joints?
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Mike, was this floorboards?
If not floorboards, was it dovetailed, or finger joints?
Two layers of dove tail joints. It looked like they were used to create a single board and the cut to size. There was one on the body sill and another on the top side rail.
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Two layers of dove tail joints. It looked like they were used to create a single board and the cut to size. There was one on the body sill and another on the top side rail.
Lower (foot) board: Looking at denniskliesen's pix it seems that linderman was used to make up the three MAJOR boards as shown in the Ford drawings (and HTRYMA Vol 6/Steve Watrous dwgs.)

These major boards seem to be made of up to three sub-sections, all jointed using linderman too?



Its like Ford put someone to a pile of scraps and said: "Here, use the linderman machine and make planks x by y so we can use that to make floorboards.

I wonder if these sub-sections have any "butt-joints"? Which might have been finger joints (although these were not common until after WWII) or butt joint end grain to end grain (a source of floorboard leak?) or use of the linderman machine (which would give a good joint but one would have to "plan out" his assembly sequence.)

Looking at the actual joint in denniskliesen's pix, I would guess the dovetail to be 5/16" at the wide of the key?



I have the technology to do these boards - and correct size cutters are available from freud and others.

And I just happen to need the lower board for my March 29 CC pickup.

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I'm also duplicating 3 sets of the floorboards with the dovetailed joints for my 28 Phaeton and Feb 29 Tudor. I finally found the correct router bit at a new and used tool store. It sure takes time to make them, but I like things to be as correct as possible.
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Joe K I'll try to remember to hold a steel ruler up to the end the next time I have them out. They were a perfect fit when I put them back in. I got the welt from Bratton's and new tacks came with it in a bag which I didn't use as I felt they were too big in diameter and length and I didn't want to take a chance splitting them. So I used the old ones.
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Old 01-11-2022, 06:41 PM   #35
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Dennis...I do like the pictures. The way it looks to me, for '29 pickup ,the floorboard looks identical to your pictures. I would say the way the pieces are installed are in this order:
1. two wood pieces
2. Metal plate for shifter
3. felt around clutch and brake pedals
4. Metal piece around those pedals
5. Shift Boot on top of wood
6. Then rubber mat
Does that sound accurate?? Appreciate your help..
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Old 01-13-2022, 05:37 PM   #36
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I made my own out of marine board, have you considered doing it yourself?
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Old 01-21-2022, 04:33 PM   #37
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It’s been my understanding Ford pushed their suppliers to deliver their product in oak crates, to enable Ford to make floorboards out of it !
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Old 01-21-2022, 08:51 PM   #38
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Does anyone make original style floorboards with multiple pieces of wood and steel straps ?

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i really like this post, thanks!

i don't like plywood in early cars because it just wasn't commercially produced until the late 1920s and most manufactures used solid wood board or laminated specially for their own cars.

the edge dovetailed boards are cool, i am going to make a set, someday.

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