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1931 flamingo · 10-07-2018, 03:55 PM

Headed to the 2nd show with the 40 this am. Stopped at DD, came out, no start.
Supposed to be a 48 block, Almquist dual intake with 2 97's. There is fuel in the fuel bowl but very little in the clear inline filter just before the pump.
Can I assume (I know) it's the fuel pump?? Now comes the fun part, with the early Almquist manifold, which one??
Any help greatly appreciated. I'm sure I'm going to have more questions later.
Paul in CT

HDowse · 10-07-2018, 04:05 PM

It's just a guess but my 40 has a similar problem when warm. It turns out the fuel has gotten hot and caused minor carburetor flooding. If she doesn't start on the first or second compression, I slowly push the accelerator to the floor (to hopefully avoid pumping even more fuel into the intake) and then hit the starter button. The wide open throttle plate clears the carb and she starts. This seems to work for me on the 40 and once in a while on the A if it's flooded.

51 MERC-CT · 10-07-2018, 04:09 PM

More than just the fuel pump could be the cause of no start.
Assuming anything is just a guess.

34PKUP · 10-07-2018, 05:56 PM

" Now comes the fun part, with the early Almquist manifold, which one??"
Can't figure what that's about??

Try priming the carb/s to see if there is indeed a fuel starvation problem.

1931 flamingo · 10-07-2018, 06:33 PM

I tried "drizzling" fuel into the carbs, still no start. I've located a pump close by and will try that tomorrow. "Now comes the fun part, with the early Almquist manifold, which one??" I'm wondering which pump to get?? But was assured the one the fellow has will work.

Yes, I know what "assume" means.

Paul in CT

scicala · 10-07-2018, 07:03 PM

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If you put fuel in the carbs, and still a no start. I wouldn't change the fuel pump for that reason. Sounds like no spark, unless the plugs are fuel fouled.

Sal

1931 flamingo · 10-08-2018, 05:54 PM

Picked up a pump today, going to install Wed after ck'ng the plugs.
The coil and cond have been moved and mounted above the dist near front of manifold, the gen has been moved so it's over the right head. What 6V coil/condenser from a NAPA, Advanced, O'Reillys, Auto Zone would work, just in case.
Thanks again in advance.
Paul in CT

4dFord/SC · 10-08-2018, 08:33 PM

Napa IH-200.

1931 flamingo · 10-09-2018, 05:16 PM

Thank you,
Paul

G.M. · 10-10-2018, 05:00 PM

why don't you have the original coil rebuilt and eliminate
the coil problem forever?? G.M.

G.M. · 10-10-2018, 05:06 PM

Compression blows a weak spark out, just like a candle.
You can see this on a spark plug testing machine that has
compressed air hooked to it. It will fire up to say 45 lbs
but go's out at higher pressure or on the car by compression.
G.M.

1931 flamingo · 10-10-2018, 05:13 PM

Changed the fuel pump, cranked it over a few times and it fired up.
Thanks,
Paul in CT

Possibly more questions to follow.

10-07-2018, 03:55 PM	#1
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,389	No Start.....fuel? Headed to the 2nd show with the 40 this am. Stopped at DD, came out, no start. Supposed to be a 48 block, Almquist dual intake with 2 97's. There is fuel in the fuel bowl but very little in the clear inline filter just before the pump. Can I assume (I know) it's the fuel pump?? Now comes the fun part, with the early Almquist manifold, which one?? Any help greatly appreciated. I'm sure I'm going to have more questions later. Paul in CT

10-07-2018, 04:05 PM	#2
HDowse Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hancock, New Hampshire Posts: 375	Re: No Start.....fuel? It's just a guess but my 40 has a similar problem when warm. It turns out the fuel has gotten hot and caused minor carburetor flooding. If she doesn't start on the first or second compression, I slowly push the accelerator to the floor (to hopefully avoid pumping even more fuel into the intake) and then hit the starter button. The wide open throttle plate clears the carb and she starts. This seems to work for me on the 40 and once in a while on the A if it's flooded.

10-07-2018, 04:09 PM	#3
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: No Start.....fuel? More than just the fuel pump could be the cause of no start. Assuming anything is just a guess. __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

10-07-2018, 05:56 PM	#4
34PKUP Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 794	Re: No Start.....fuel? " Now comes the fun part, with the early Almquist manifold, which one??" Can't figure what that's about?? Try priming the carb/s to see if there is indeed a fuel starvation problem.

10-07-2018, 06:33 PM	#5
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,389	Re: No Start.....fuel? I tried "drizzling" fuel into the carbs, still no start. I've located a pump close by and will try that tomorrow. "Now comes the fun part, with the early Almquist manifold, which one??" I'm wondering which pump to get?? But was assured the one the fellow has will work. Yes, I know what "assume" means. Paul in CT

10-07-2018, 07:03 PM	#6
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,698	Re: No Start.....fuel? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) If you put fuel in the carbs, and still a no start. I wouldn't change the fuel pump for that reason. Sounds like no spark, unless the plugs are fuel fouled. Sal

10-08-2018, 05:54 PM	#7
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,389	Re: No Start.....fuel? Picked up a pump today, going to install Wed after ck'ng the plugs. The coil and cond have been moved and mounted above the dist near front of manifold, the gen has been moved so it's over the right head. What 6V coil/condenser from a NAPA, Advanced, O'Reillys, Auto Zone would work, just in case. Thanks again in advance. Paul in CT

10-08-2018, 08:33 PM	#8
4dFord/SC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 1,579	Re: No Start.....fuel? Napa IH-200.

10-09-2018, 05:16 PM	#9
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,389	Re: No Start.....fuel? Thank you, Paul

10-10-2018, 05:00 PM	#10
G.M. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida and Penna. Posts: 4,471	Re: No Start.....fuel? why don't you have the original coil rebuilt and eliminate the coil problem forever?? G.M. __________________ www.fordcollector.com

10-10-2018, 05:06 PM	#11
G.M. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida and Penna. Posts: 4,471	Re: No Start.....fuel? Compression blows a weak spark out, just like a candle. You can see this on a spark plug testing machine that has compressed air hooked to it. It will fire up to say 45 lbs but go's out at higher pressure or on the car by compression. G.M. __________________ www.fordcollector.com

10-10-2018, 05:13 PM	#12
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,389	Re: No Start.....fuel? Changed the fuel pump, cranked it over a few times and it fired up. Thanks, Paul in CT Possibly more questions to follow.