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v8fordman · 07-22-2018, 06:42 PM

Does anyone know if I can use the backing plate assemblies from a 1951 F2 on a '37 1/2 ton pickup that I want to put hydraulic brakes on for additional braking power? I have a '39 brake pedal setup already mounted and was going to use '46 style backing plates. I had these F2's on a truck I am going to scrap and just thought they may be a little better. I don't know, but I look forward to hearing from you guys on the pros and cons.

rich b · 07-22-2018, 10:36 PM

F-2 Bendix brake backing plates are not compatible with early Ford drums.

JSeery · 07-22-2018, 11:48 PM

You would need to use the backing plates, hubs & drums for an F1 setup (and different/modified inter bearing). I would assume the F2 would be the same, but not sure.

Tinker · 07-23-2018, 01:35 AM

some reading on early spindles, f1 and backing plates. f2 setups... the same as f1? no idea.

Square back spindles vs round back.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...thread.953600/

https://www.hotrodhotline.com/md/htm...arly_fords.php

last post on f2 brake cyclinders.
https://www.earlyfordv8.org/forum/pr...=17&Topic=3989

rotorwrench · 07-23-2018, 09:22 AM

F2 & F3 brake parts are getting harder to source. A person would be better off with either early Ford or the MT copies of the Lincoln Bendix design. At least that way you can use parts that are currently readily available and will fit without much trouble.

19Fordy · 07-23-2018, 10:21 AM

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truckdog62563 · 07-23-2018, 11:17 AM

Be aware too that Ford switched mid-year 1951 from Lockheed brakes to Bendix. You’d need to know whether your donor was an early or late 1951 truck. Stu

JSeery · 07-23-2018, 11:33 AM

I thought f1 was bendix from the get go.

rich b · 07-23-2018, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JSeery

I thought f1 was bendix from the get go.

Correct. '48-'52 F-1 brakes were all 11" Bendix; but F-2 & F-3 used 12" Lockheed brakes until late '51; when they began using 12" Bendix.

JSeery · 07-23-2018, 05:14 PM

Thanks Rich, not really very familiar with F-2 on up.

v8fordman · 07-23-2018, 08:11 PM

Thanks everyone for the info. I believe I will just use some '46 style backing plates and drums. I thought I would see if the F2 stuff would work since it is going to the scrap yard when scrap metal prices go up.

truckdog62563 · 07-23-2018, 08:28 PM

Save the 16” one piece drop center wheels. They are becoming hard to find, and valuable. Stu

GB SISSON · 07-23-2018, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truckdog62563

Save the 16” one piece drop center wheels. They are becoming hard to find, and valuable. Stu

I grab all of them that I can find. Just watch the 'Race of Gentlemen' videos. If you don't have 16" drop center ford wheels, you might just as well go home.....

07-22-2018, 06:42 PM	#1
v8fordman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 860	1951 F2 Brake Question Does anyone know if I can use the backing plate assemblies from a 1951 F2 on a '37 1/2 ton pickup that I want to put hydraulic brakes on for additional braking power? I have a '39 brake pedal setup already mounted and was going to use '46 style backing plates. I had these F2's on a truck I am going to scrap and just thought they may be a little better. I don't know, but I look forward to hearing from you guys on the pros and cons.

07-22-2018, 10:36 PM	#2
rich b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,825	Re: 1951 F2 Brake Question F-2 Bendix brake backing plates are not compatible with early Ford drums.

07-22-2018, 11:48 PM	#3
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: 1951 F2 Brake Question You would need to use the backing plates, hubs & drums for an F1 setup (and different/modified inter bearing). I would assume the F2 would be the same, but not sure. Last edited by JSeery; 07-23-2018 at 07:03 AM.

07-23-2018, 01:35 AM	#4
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: 1951 F2 Brake Question some reading on early spindles, f1 and backing plates. f2 setups... the same as f1? no idea. Square back spindles vs round back. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...thread.953600/ https://www.hotrodhotline.com/md/htm...arly_fords.php last post on f2 brake cyclinders. https://www.earlyfordv8.org/forum/pr...=17&Topic=3989 Last edited by Tinker; 07-23-2018 at 01:56 AM.

07-23-2018, 09:22 AM	#5
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,426	Re: 1951 F2 Brake Question F2 & F3 brake parts are getting harder to source. A person would be better off with either early Ford or the MT copies of the Lincoln Bendix design. At least that way you can use parts that are currently readily available and will fit without much trouble.

07-23-2018, 10:21 AM	#6
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,936	Re: 1951 F2 Brake Question Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) V8fordman: Will these work? They are 11 inch brakes. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...gs-etc.956972/ Last edited by 19Fordy; 07-23-2018 at 01:58 PM.

07-23-2018, 11:17 AM	#7
truckdog62563 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, Il Posts: 599	Re: 1951 F2 Brake Question Be aware too that Ford switched mid-year 1951 from Lockheed brakes to Bendix. You’d need to know whether your donor was an early or late 1951 truck. Stu __________________ Stu McMillan Marmon-Herringtons

07-23-2018, 11:33 AM	#8
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: 1951 F2 Brake Question I thought f1 was bendix from the get go.

07-23-2018, 05:14 PM	#10
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: 1951 F2 Brake Question Thanks Rich, not really very familiar with F-2 on up.

07-23-2018, 08:11 PM	#11
v8fordman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 860	Re: 1951 F2 Brake Question Thanks everyone for the info. I believe I will just use some '46 style backing plates and drums. I thought I would see if the F2 stuff would work since it is going to the scrap yard when scrap metal prices go up.

07-23-2018, 08:28 PM	#12
truckdog62563 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, Il Posts: 599	Re: 1951 F2 Brake Question Save the 16” one piece drop center wheels. They are becoming hard to find, and valuable. Stu __________________ Stu McMillan Marmon-Herringtons